Does The Sandlot hold up? With comedian Paula Kosienski!

Kyle: 00:00:00

Foreign. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Movie wars podcast. I'm Kyle.

Seth: 00:00:17

I'm Seth.

Kyle: 00:00:17

And we have an amazing guest host with us today, the hilarious Paula Kosinski, ladies and gentlemen.

Paula: 00:00:22

You nailed it. Nailed it.

Seth: 00:00:24

You've met her husband, John. Detoy was on for Tintin. And the Northman. And the Northman. Here we are back.

We got this episode this week and then one next week with Paula Kosinski, comedy legend.

Kyle: 00:00:34

You have a dry bar special. You have, right, Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Paula: 00:00:38

Sorry. I was reacting to the legend part.

Kyle: 00:00:39

I was like, no, you are a legend.

Paula: 00:00:41

Tell my mom. Someone said.

Kyle: 00:00:42

Tell her.

Seth: 00:00:43

Tell her. It's on video. You got proof?

Paula: 00:00:45

Yeah. Dry bar. You were right.

Kyle: 00:00:47

How was that? What was that like? You're. You're like the third person we've had on here with a dry bar. What is that like?

Paula: 00:00:52

Well, I think I have kind of a unique experience because I was so, so horribly ill for my dry bar. I'm talking about bodily fluids leaving all areas, every orifice. I'm talking sweat, ear holes have been ruined, outfits just like. It was.

It was so bad. And it was so. I woke up. I'll try to keep it short because this is actually what we're here for.

Kyle: 00:01:16

Keep it in.

Paula: 00:01:16

But we. Okay. So I got there the next day. We woke up. It's a dry bar day. I woke up. I feel so, so nauseous and disgusting.

I truly thought I was so nervous, but I was like, I didn't feel that nervous to. I've never been this nervous to be this sick.

Seth: 00:01:30

Yeah.

Paula: 00:01:30

And I remember my mom was like, you just gotta get up and get going. And I was like, I don't know. Everything in my body is telling me not to get up and get going.

Kyle: 00:01:38

Right.

Paula: 00:01:39

But I. I listened and it was like everything. Like the, like the floodgates.

Kyle: 00:01:45

Yeah.

Paula: 00:01:46

So then I was like. So I. I stayed sick. I. I was sick until the drive. I got in, my sister did my makeup and stuff. I got in the car, thrift the whole way there.

Had to stop halfway through, try to eat a banana in the gas station that was not going to work. Got there, continued to throw up at the show in front of everybody. And they showed up an hour and a half late because of the throwing up.

And I remember they offered me like this separate area and I was like. In my head, I was like, oh, my gosh, that's such a diva. You're an hour and a half late. You're sick. And I thought it was from nerves.

So I'm like, oh, my gosh. Who am I to need this, like, space? Like, no, I don't need that. That's so diva ish.

But then looking back on it, I'm like, why just let everybody watch me throw up?

Kyle: 00:02:32

Yeah.

Paula: 00:02:32

So I think they were like, please get out.

Kyle: 00:02:35

Yeah.

Paula: 00:02:36

Luckily, I think because of God and adrenaline, the actual show went fine. Although they had a trash can set up in the wings on a stool with wet wipes. Cause I was so aggressively vomiting.

And they were like, if you throw up, we'll come back out. We'll edit it out. And I'm like, if I throw up, I'm not coming back out. You're insane.

So then luckily the shows went fine, and I thought it was nerves. Cause I had stopped throwing up. So then I decided to eat food, which is such a dumb idea.

And then I went home and proceeded to throw up in my bed sheets.

Kyle: 00:03:08

Oh, my gosh. So this wasn't a dry bar special. This was a wet wipe special.

Paula: 00:03:13

It was. It was. It was so bad. I remember, like, they take you around to get all your stuff, and I'm holding a trash can and for pictures, I'm like, this.

And then they're like, they're like posing. I was like, go back into my trash. And it was like, unfortunately the worst day.

Kyle: 00:03:30

Like I said, legend, legendary legend who carries their trash can around for the photo shoot of their special.

Seth: 00:03:36

Yeah.

Paula: 00:03:37

I love that shout out to drybar for not being like, go home or like, please, we don't want you here. They treated me. They got me gummy bears. I was like, cuz I, you know, like, something's happened just to get the taste out of your mouth.

Seth: 00:03:51

Yeah.

Paula: 00:03:52

I was like, these people were saints.

Kyle: 00:03:55

Yeah. They could have been complete bigots and be like, we don't do specials for vomiters.

Paula: 00:04:00

And I would have been like, I understand. I don't. I didn't want to be there either.

Kyle: 00:04:03

But we don't tolerate vomiting.

Paula: 00:04:05

Yeah. I would have canceled if it wasn't for John to be like, you're not canceling.

Seth: 00:04:08

I was like, we've spent too much money for you to cancel. You're doing this.

Paula: 00:04:12

Like my body has canceled. So. But it was totally worth it.

Kyle: 00:04:16

We're glad you survived. You put out a heck of a special and you're here today.

Paula: 00:04:18

Thank you. Thank. Thank you. Yeah, I'm excited here.

Kyle: 00:04:21

She's excited to talk about the Sandlot.

Seth: 00:04:23

A movie I had not seen until two days ago.

Kyle: 00:04:25

Wow.

Paula: 00:04:26

Movie person. That's crazy.

Seth: 00:04:28

There's. There's plenty of gaps.

And a lot of times it's just cuz like I missed it when it came out and then just haven't had a reason to watch it until this podcast. So here we are.

Kyle: 00:04:37

Right? Yeah. There was, there was a couple years of my life, especially when I moved to Nashville. I didn't have Internet. I slept on a futon.

I didn't have a tv.

Seth: 00:04:44

There you go.

Kyle: 00:04:45

I just. And I completely was unaware of anything other than guitar gigs.

Seth: 00:04:48

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:04:49

I was like, I will play guitar. I don't know who's in office. I don't know. I didn't. I had a flip phone.

Seth: 00:04:55

It was Nixon. It was Nixon.

Kyle: 00:04:56

It was Nixon.

Seth: 00:04:57

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:04:57

This was Nixon because you're old. Yep. And remember when they assassinated Nixon and we thought it was the guy in Pennsylvania. Oh, wait, I'm mixing up my thing.

Seth: 00:05:06

You're absolutely mixing up people.

Paula: 00:05:08

I. Who are you talking about?

Seth: 00:05:12

Did you mean Kennedy or Ray?

Kyle: 00:05:13

I was, I was purposely joking. Yeah, sorry. I was scrambling my history because I was so, I was so in my cave. But no, yeah.

Paula: 00:05:20

You're a very good actor.

Kyle: 00:05:21

Thank you. You heard it here. Now I'm the legend. Somebody give me a trash can. I got a puke.

Seth: 00:05:26

There we go.

Kyle: 00:05:28

But yeah, I, I, so I understand what you're saying. Like, there, there was a phase of my life where literally everything passed me by.

Seth: 00:05:33

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:05:34

Even movies. And I was a movie, like, fan also.

Seth: 00:05:36

This movie came out the year I was born. So.

Kyle: 00:05:39

Yeah, young. And yeah, I, I went into this movie. I was, I sometimes I get confrontational when I re. Watch a movie. I'm like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go back.

I'm gonna hate this.

Seth: 00:05:48

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:05:49

I loved it growing up. But I'm ready to. There's no way this movie held up. I'm crying at the end.

Seth: 00:05:54

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:05:55

It like rattled my cage.

Seth: 00:05:56

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:05:57

And what I love about this movie, and I think maybe the nuance I didn't pick up on when I was young was they did a really good job building up this almost mystical thing around, around these kids, around the dog and around Benny. Benny's almost this. If you really look at the film, the subtext, he is almost this mystical type of figure.

Seth: 00:06:17

Absolutely. And I love the leader of the.

Kyle: 00:06:19

Gang, and I love it.

Paula: 00:06:20

Yeah, he's a real calming presence. I think every show or TV show that you like, it's like you have that one per. And that you kind of rely on to be solid.

Seth: 00:06:28

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:06:28

Yeah, that's a great point. And as a parent, you know, and you Guys don't have kids. But I'm gonna again, sound old.

I have four kids and one thing that's very specific to my generation of parents is this, this view and this argument over helicopter parenting.

Seth: 00:06:43

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:06:44

Jonathan Haight. I recommend this for anybody even if you don't have kids. The Anxious Generation. Incredible book.

It's about the impact of technology, social media on the, on development. Right. Of kids. And it's an incredible book. But there is this like battle and you watch this movie and although it's. It glorifies the good of it.

But there, there was this period, and I grew up in this too, where my parents, they didn't care because they were alcoholics. But even if they were sober, like they just didn't know where I was.

Seth: 00:07:13

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:07:14

98 of the time.

Paula: 00:07:16

Right.

Kyle: 00:07:16

And this really glorifies the time. And for a lot of parents, they would watch this and they just could not imagine raising their children this way.

Seth: 00:07:22

Oh, yeah. I mean even, even when I was homeschooled, like we still. Yeah. Kind of did the same thing.

Like we would just roam all over the neighborhood and it was just like, yeah, be back before or at least in the cul de sac by the time it's sundown.

Kyle: 00:07:33

Yeah. And if you see a white van, just run.

Paula: 00:07:35

Yeah, yeah.

Seth: 00:07:36

Take candy from strangers.

Kyle: 00:07:38

Yes.

Paula: 00:07:38

My mom has that similar like childhood experience. And then my mom's a little bit of a warrior, so she got, she. We didn't really have that. But she wasn't like a helicopter parent.

But that was her experience.

Kyle: 00:07:50

Sure.

Paula: 00:07:51

Just.

Kyle: 00:07:51

Right. Yeah. It's hard, right? I mean. And my kids are, they're latchkey kids in a lot of ways. I mean they literally just.

My son, my oldest just leaves the house and I'm like, oh, I wonder if he's okay. He's probably, he's probably fine. Armed robbery. 11 year old rob's. Rob's elderly man at Sonic. But yeah, I, Yeah.

And so it was really fun to relate to this as a parent and had maybe having a little more awareness of this, this mythical. And man, this is actually, I do have a question about that. I'm gonna save it for the question because this is a really good conversation piece.

But before we get to it, you maybe you hit the ball in the wrong place and you gotta go get it. And the only way you're gonna get it that ball is you're gonna share Movie Wars.

Seth: 00:08:32

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:08:33

Or.

Seth: 00:08:33

Or wrestle a dog.

Kyle: 00:08:34

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Seth: 00:08:45

Or else.

Kyle: 00:08:46

Or else.

Paula: 00:08:47

Sharing is caring.

Kyle: 00:08:48

Grab your trash can, walk around, tell a joke, puke. Tell a joke, puke. Deliver an amazing special baby.

Seth: 00:08:55

There we go. I got to say, as someone who didn't grow up with this movie, I was worried that it was just going to be the hype of.

All my friends were like, oh, I love that movie. It's great. Because they saw it as kids. I was shocked. It, it's, it's a. I think it dragged in like two places. Like there was a couple of sequences.

I was like, this is going on a little long.

Kyle: 00:09:14

It does drag. The dog. The dog stuff drags a little bit.

Seth: 00:09:16

A little bit. But. But even then it's like, I don't know, there was, for the most part, it, it really does tell such a great story.

Spy Kids movies in the early: 2000

Kyle: 00:09:47

Right.

Seth: 00:09:47

Because I mean, you had this, you had Angels in the Outfield. I mean, you had so many kids movies coming out. Yeah, the Rookie. Yeah, like so much coming out at that time.

And it's just enough adult humor that parents would still enjoy it. But it's like, definitely would have gone over my head as like a 5 to 10 year old.

Paula: 00:10:05

Yes. I totally couldn't agree with more with you. I feel like there's no movies for families. It's either just for kids or just for adult.

And I promise you there's no rom coms anymore for anything other than rated R or Hallmark. A good, A good rom com just doesn't need to be radar. And anyway, that's a separate subject.

But there's just, there's just nothing that everyone can sit around and watch any.

Kyle: 00:10:34

Right.

Seth: 00:10:34

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:10:35

Yeah. No, I love that point of view. And I don't love. I. Even when I was a kid, I mean, I'm wearing a shirt. This was my childhood movie.

Seth: 00:10:43

Yeah. Well, that's the thing was this didn't exist in the 80s.

Kyle: 00:10:46

Yeah.

Seth: 00:10:47

Like you kind of had the family musicals of the 50s and then the 60s, 70s and 80s. I feel like even if there were Family movies, like, like they weren't really in the forefront of society at that point.

You were had very like experimental sci fi movies and these like horror movies really took off in the 70s and it's like, yeah, this suddenly like 90s family film is its own specific genre. I feel like that didn't happen before and hasn't happened since.

Kyle: 00:11:15

And I feel like there were two ways. I love what you said about horror because there were really two ways to look at it. It was like they.

There was a handful of child stars and they would put them in horror movies. You would be more likely. Corey Feldman was in Friday the 13th for the final Chapter.

Seth: 00:11:28

Oh, okay.

Kyle: 00:11:29

And that was one of his early debuts.

Seth: 00:11:31

And.

Kyle: 00:11:31

And he like freaking kills Jason with a machete.

Seth: 00:11:33

You say debute.

Kyle: 00:11:34

Debut. Sorry. I am from Arkansas. Debute. I like that tea in there. I like that tea in there, baby. Right? That's a good tea. Right?

Paula: 00:11:44

You know, debut.

Kyle: 00:11:45

Debut.

Seth: 00:11:45

It's a great tea. It's silent.

Kyle: 00:11:47

Yeah. You're from Minneapolis or Minnesota?

Paula: 00:11:49

North Dakota.

Kyle: 00:11:50

You're from North Dakota. Sorry, I don't know how I confuse.

Seth: 00:11:52

They're right there.

Kyle: 00:11:52

Y' all hit the T hard up there on debut or is it.

Paula: 00:11:55

No, I've never heard anybody do that in my life.

Kyle: 00:11:57

Well, I'm from Arkansas. I'm a Filipino from Arkansas. We have problems. But there was doing that and. But there was also. It was almost like you child children's movies were.

Were almost exclusively relegated to animation.

Seth: 00:12:11

Yeah. Or Saturday Morning, like you had one that would shine through here and there. But it wasn't like that entire decade where it was. Yeah.

You still had your. Your Eyes Wide Shuts. You still had your Jurassic Parks even. But it's like every year at least five or six very solid and very well told.

Kyle: 00:12:31

Yeah.

Seth: 00:12:31

Family stories would come out.

Paula: 00:12:32

Right.

Kyle: 00:12:33

What is it? It's. Now it's hitting me. I'm thinking like they had Corey Feldman in Friday the 13th in his debut.

Seth: 00:12:38

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:12:38

One of his debuts.

Seth: 00:12:39

Sean Aston was in the Goonies.

Kyle: 00:12:41

Yep. Sean and Corey Feldman.

Seth: 00:12:42

Corey Feldman and Josh Brolin.

Paula: 00:12:44

I have to tell you guys, okay. This movie, the Goonies and Little Rascals in my head, all one singular movie.

Kyle: 00:12:52

Yeah. Yeah.

Paula: 00:12:54

For like the first 10 minutes, I was like, where's Alfalfa?

Kyle: 00:12:57

Yeah.

Seth: 00:12:59

I mean, they all kind of ambiguously take place in that kind of 60s era.

Kyle: 00:13:03

Yeah.

Seth: 00:13:03

Even though they were made later, so it makes sense.

Paula: 00:13:06

Yeah. It was a minute in before I was like, oh, this is a different.

Seth: 00:13:09

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:13:11

And then they put Corey Feldman and Corey the other Corey in Lost boys. Oh, the 80s was all about Drew Barrymore and Firestarter, which is when she was 11. The first time she did coke was on the set of Firestarter.

Thank you, Stephen King.

Seth: 00:13:23

Wow.

Kyle: 00:13:23

Like, what was the deal with putting kids in horror movies? I know we're talking about the sandlot, but it just hit me.

It's like, it's like we had children's movies that were cartoons, animation, Disney and ET Random. And then we just put kids in horror movies.

Seth: 00:13:36

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:13:36

I mean, Silver Bullet with Fred Savage.

Seth: 00:13:39

Yeah. I mean, the kids in horror movies is still a thing today. I mean, just think about hereditary and how fucking creepy what's her name is.

Who plays the daughter in hereditary? Like, it just.

Whenever you can get a performance out of a child that is genuinely scary like that, I mean, it does add a whole other layer to a horror movie.

Kyle: 00:13:57

Yeah. The question, the questions. There's very little controversy about this movie, but if there was one, I had to dig it up.

Seth: 00:14:08

Controversy. Kyle Castro over here.

Kyle: 00:14:11

Gotta bring it all down. Gotta burn it down. Burn it down. The Wendy Peppercorn thing is the only thing that draws irony.

Seth: 00:14:20

How old is she supposed to be in this movie?

Kyle: 00:14:22

I know, I'm like, she's 26, 25. She looks maybe 25 or 26, but.

Seth: 00:14:26

I think the character is definitely supposed to be in her teens.

Kyle: 00:14:28

Yeah, right.

Paula: 00:14:29

We were literally talking about this scene on the way here.

Seth: 00:14:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little, little strange. Like sometimes I look back at older movies and I'm just like, how in the hell did they get away with that?

Because I mean, there was. And I mean, I think most guys in that age always had that one older girl that they were like, oh my God, she's so beautiful. Like, but.

And so I feel like that kind of was that childish fantasy of like being the 12 year old who's able to pull the older girl. Like, oh, I'm the legend now. But you look back on it, it's like, wow, that's so creepy.

Kyle: 00:15:03

Yeah.

Paula: 00:15:04

12 year olds. Oh my gosh. I, Yeah, I do, I do think one thing that I appreciated about the scene and maybe like, what lessens the. Like, obviously that's not okay.

Like, obviously in real life that's not okay. But if you are going to do something bad. He really did put in the sacrifice.

Seth: 00:15:25

It's true.

Paula: 00:15:26

He did fully pretend to drown.

Seth: 00:15:29

He worked for it.

Paula: 00:15:30

So. So it's like, it's not lazy. At least he's not lazy about it.

Kyle: 00:15:34

Yeah.

Seth: 00:15:35

And they did get married in the end.

Kyle: 00:15:37

So, I mean, have nine children.

Seth: 00:15:38

Nine children that.

Kyle: 00:15:39

Man, that's a few. That's a few children.

Seth: 00:15:41

Very productive.

Paula: 00:15:42

You're halfway there.

Kyle: 00:15:44

Yeah, yeah. I'm medically unavailable at this point. Yeah.

Seth: 00:15:48

He's been to the vet.

Kyle: 00:15:49

I'm on the injured reserve list. I can no longer further the species. So it's up to everyone else now. I did. I did my job.

Seth: 00:15:56

You've had enough kids for you and me, so we're good.

Kyle: 00:15:59

You are telling me, sir. So this is the other question I have. How. I feel like this movie of a lot of these movies. Like I said, I. I just.

I didn't even like kid oriented movies when I was a kid. I liked violent. I was raised on action. I don't know why. Bad parents, alcoholic parents, whatever it is. But this is. This was my childhood movie, so.

But this one strikes. Nearly oppose it as a question. Does this strike almost a perfect balance between kid and adult? Like, yeah, it. How does it hit both cylinders so well?

Seth: 00:16:32

I mean, it's kind of similar to like the first Toy Story movie. You go back and watch that movie, there are so many sex jokes.

Kyle: 00:16:39

Yeah.

Seth: 00:16:40

That are so layered and innuendo that there's no way I understood them as a kid.

Kyle: 00:16:45

Right.

Seth: 00:16:45

But then, like, you're an adult and you're like, oh, wow, he's about to call Buzz a bastard. But he doesn't want to say it because there's preschool toys around.

Kyle: 00:16:52

Yeah.

Seth: 00:16:52

Like, it's crazy. And I feel like this kind of did. I mean, it was a little more overt, I feel like.

But at the same time, a lot of it was still so layered in, like just kids smack talking each other.

Kyle: 00:17:05

Yeah.

Seth: 00:17:05

That. Yeah. It does strike a very strange balance between kids enjoying it and adults enjoying it.

Paula: 00:17:11

This is the type of movie that I would watch with my dad.

Seth: 00:17:14

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:17:15

Yeah.

Paula: 00:17:15

Where it's like, it's not necessarily like that. If I was gonna enjoy it with someone, I would enjoy with my dad.

Seth: 00:17:22

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:17:22

Yeah.

Seth: 00:17:23

I love that whole scene where they're talking smack to each other and then he ends it by just being like, you play baseball like a girl. That's the one.

Kyle: 00:17:32

After all the horrible insults, that was the one that rattled the game.

Paula: 00:17:37

That was such a good surprise. Maybe that wouldn't be more controversial now. I mean.

Yeah, it's totally ridiculous if it was controversial because it's like, okay, everyone get a grip here.

Seth: 00:17:45

Yeah. But also it takes place in the 60s. Like, calm down, people.

Paula: 00:17:49

But. But yeah, I remember watching that and being like. Like, people would Be mad about that.

Kyle: 00:17:56

Yeah. It's funny you say that on a day where the wnba, they're wearing shirts.

Seth: 00:18:00

Oh, yeah.

Kyle: 00:18:01

That say. They say, pay us what you owe us, even though it's literally been funded by the NBA and they. They literally lost $50 million.

Paula: 00:18:08

If you want to be paid what you owe and you owe us some money, like, sorry.

Seth: 00:18:12

Bill Burr on his new special just put out a bit all about that. How he's like, yeah, every study says that women are smarter. Like every single one of them. And yet why aren't you running things?

And he's like, because you're so busy tearing each other down. He's like, if you guys cared about the WNBA as much as you said you did, then it would be so much bigger than the regular NBA.

Kyle: 00:18:33

Yeah, it's true.

Paula: 00:18:35

And I think, like women, we're. Well, I think we're quick to claim the smart thing. It's like, okay, well, if you can claim that you're smarter, then you got to have the other.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Seth: 00:18:45

Right.

Paula: 00:18:46

I don't even think there's women's baseball.

Kyle: 00:18:48

Yeah.

Paula: 00:18:50

Softball. I'm so stupid. I'm so sorry. Take that back. That was.

Seth: 00:18:53

Yeah, but they don't even get their own version of the sport. They get a whole other sport technically, the soft version. Yeah.

Kyle: 00:18:59

Which is funny, is the ball is bigger. It looks dangerous and.

Seth: 00:19:02

And harder.

Kyle: 00:19:03

Yeah. Really?

Seth: 00:19:04

Then at least like the.

Paula: 00:19:05

Not. I don't know the exact measurements, but.

Seth: 00:19:09

I've been hit by both.

Paula: 00:19:10

I've. I've held the baseball and it feels like if you were to be hit by it, it would leave more of like a softball covers more area.

So it's like because it covers more area, the impact is more dispersed.

Seth: 00:19:22

Possibly. They both hurt like hell when I've got by them. So.

Kyle: 00:19:25

Yeah. Yeah. Rando.

Seth: 00:19:29

Oh, you only have the two questions.

Kyle: 00:19:30

I have a third one if we want to go down this route. Let's see here.

Paula: 00:19:33

Do it.

Kyle: 00:19:34

Which kid did you relate to the most? Oh, sorry. There's not really a girl other than Wendy Peffercorn.

Paula: 00:19:39

That's okay. I definitely do not relate to Wendy Peppercorn.

Seth: 00:19:42

I was about to say, have. Have you been been kissed, assaulted by a. A 10 year old boy? Looks like Stevo.

Paula: 00:19:48

I was also not the girl that everybody was like, oh, my God. They were like, I think that's a. Maybe a boy too. No, no, I was cute, but like different.

Seth: 00:20:00

Okay.

Kyle: 00:20:01

Anyway, I'm just sitting here.

Seth: 00:20:02

Yeah, I'm sorry.

Kyle: 00:20:04

I'M not responding.

Paula: 00:20:04

I made it weird. I'm sorry.

Kyle: 00:20:06

No, you didn't make it weird. I'm just.

Paula: 00:20:07

Woo.

Kyle: 00:20:08

Yeah. I'm just supportive over here.

Seth: 00:20:12

Oh, man. I think honestly, I kind of.

I kind of personally related to the main kid quite a bit because, like, so, Grant, I didn't have, like a stepdad situation, but I definitely grew up kind of being the loner, even though I was surrounded by siblings.

Kyle: 00:20:26

Like, you were number one out of what again? Six.

Seth: 00:20:28

Number three out of six.

Kyle: 00:20:29

God, I thought it was six out of 12.

Seth: 00:20:32

No, no, not that many. But yeah. So I kind of. I kind of related to that where it's like, I. Even to this day, it's hard for me to make friends.

So it's just like, I get how you move to a new situation and you just feel like you're drowning because it's like, what do I do?

Kyle: 00:20:46

Yeah. What about you?

Paula: 00:20:50

The. I'm bad with names. Like the chubby one.

Kyle: 00:20:53

Patrick. Patrick. Rena's porter.

Paula: 00:20:55

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:20:56

Hamilton Porter.

Paula: 00:20:56

It's not that I think. It's not like I was like a ugly kid or anything like that, but it wasn't.

I feel like girls have like that coming of age where they kind of like start to be more. Feel more like, hot or something. And. That's right. Thought Wendy Peppercorn's character symbolized.

Kyle: 00:21:14

Yeah.

Paula: 00:21:14

And I was like, okay. Well, I didn't. I definitely don't relate to that at the. When. When I was their age.

But I kind of related to him because he seemed like, you know, he was like the fighter. But he also wasn't like, right cool. But he was loyal. And.

Kyle: 00:21:28

Yeah.

Paula: 00:21:28

You know, like, I feel like I just related part of that.

Seth: 00:21:31

I feel that.

Kyle: 00:21:31

Yeah. I'm like a hybrid. I was really overweight.

Seth: 00:21:35

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:21:35

Up until like 5 days ago. I just recently lost my baby weight. It's very good.

Seth: 00:21:41

And not according to everyone on the Internet.

Kyle: 00:21:44

Yeah, the Internet. That's the angle. But if you could see me standing up, boy, where this. This isn't compressed air. Oh, boy. Oh, you lose me.

If I turn to the side, you lose me. You would think, whoa. He's like, college rule paper. But I. So I relate to that. But he was. The thing about Rena is.

And he's like this in all of his movies. He's like, cool boy, fat energy.

Seth: 00:22:05

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:22:05

He's never like, me. I was bullied for being fat. He's like, I'm fat and I'm better than you.

Seth: 00:22:10

Exactly.

Kyle: 00:22:10

I love it.

Paula: 00:22:11

He's confident.

Kyle: 00:22:12

He's confident. He rocks it. Right? So I got a little bit of that squint because I was born with cataracts.

Seth: 00:22:17

Fair.

Kyle: 00:22:18

Because. So I've had two rounds of cataract surgery. I have the thick glass. I mean, so did that the whole. Yeah, I still squint with these on.

My best friend of 20 years the other day, just finally straight up asked me, he was like, you. You wearing glasses and you're still squinting. He's like, why are you. Why are you reading with your right eye only?

I'm like, I'm like reading the subtitles on a movie. I'm like, because, man, I'm blind. But so that. And I think Smalls was still cooler than me somehow. But I do, I do. I do understand his.

I like his malaise. You know, this fact that he's got this. He's moving around and he's got this father in law that doesn't hate him, but doesn't.

He's not into him either. You know what I mean? It was.

Seth: 00:22:55

I. I didn't realize until I watched it that. That this is the movie where. You're killing me. Smalls came from.

Kyle: 00:23:01

Yeah.

Seth: 00:23:02

I had no clue.

Kyle: 00:23:02

Yeah, I did.

Paula: 00:23:03

I get that a lot as a kid.

Kyle: 00:23:05

Really.

Paula: 00:23:05

Just short. I was short. Okay, so it's like it was a. Ha ha.

Kyle: 00:23:11

Yeah. Yes. Malls.

Seth: 00:23:13

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:23:13

Yeah. Oh, no go. Sorry, no go.

Paula: 00:23:16

Can I add one more, please?

Kyle: 00:23:17

Go.

Paula: 00:23:18

Okay. I kind of also related to Benny because I felt like he was like the one who kind of like the team revolved around.

And I felt like when I got a little older, I was like the social one that would like, call all my friends and like get a get together going and stuff like that. So I related to him in that way.

Kyle: 00:23:37

He was a unifier for sure.

Seth: 00:23:39

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:23:39

Very endearing.

Seth: 00:23:40

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:23:40

That's one thing that I loved about it was that his character was very like. It's like something he would aspire to. Yeah, Like, I like that. So. So you were that person. You were the unifier.

Paula: 00:23:49

Yeah. Just extroverted and friendly, I think, getting people together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kyle: 00:23:54

I love that. I wish I had a friend like you. In high school. People like, boy, did I party. I was like, there were parties. I knew it.

I heard that people were doing things so quick. Funny story about that. I'll just do a really quick story. I want. When I went to prom, did you guys like prom? You were homeschooled.

Seth: 00:24:12

I did go to prom, actually, and I was not a fan. That was at the time that that song I Put my hands up in the air sometime when. When a room of sweaty 17 year olds all put their arms up in the air.

God damn, did it stink?

Kyle: 00:24:25

Horrible. Did you like prom?

Paula: 00:24:27

Yeah, I liked prom. I. I thought it was a really cute, fun thing.

Kyle: 00:24:31

So I went to prom with the girl of my dreams at the time and her boyfriend, because when I asked her to prom, they had broken up and he was a Marine. And when he came back, he wouldn't let her go to prom. Was just me. So he basically chaperoned.

So just to tag on to you so I could have used a friend like you to help me out of that situation, to maybe add me to something different than that situation. Anyway, feel sorry for me.

Seth: 00:24:57

That's a book in and of itself.

Kyle: 00:24:58

Yeah. Yeah. And he was a Marine, so I was very scared.

Seth: 00:25:01

Yeah.

Paula: 00:25:01

That's a rom com. Me, my prom day and Marine and her.

Kyle: 00:25:05

Yeah. I was like, don't do not. And just like, it's one. It's weird to be dancing and then look over and he's just like.

Seth: 00:25:11

Like, you two are dancing and he's got his hands on your shoulders from behind.

Kyle: 00:25:16

Never going to prom again.

Paula: 00:25:18

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:25:18

Even if you invite above the belt arms. Rando.

Seth: 00:25:23

Rando.

Kyle: 00:25:24

That was a rando story. You want to say rando? I'll have our guest say it.

Paula: 00:25:28

What does that mean?

Kyle: 00:25:29

Rando. It's our. It's our.

Paula: 00:25:30

Don't just say the word. Oh, Randle.

Seth: 00:25:32

There we go.

Kyle: 00:25:33

We. Every guest has their own interpretation of the mater.

Paula: 00:25:36

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:25:36

Some people go chest, some people go falsetto.

Seth: 00:25:39

Yeah. I go balls.

Kyle: 00:25:41

Balls. Sign language. We've had it all.

Paula: 00:25:43

I like to go Gregorian chant.

Seth: 00:25:45

There we go.

Kyle: 00:25:50

That's actually. Wow. Got a Lutheran over here.

Seth: 00:25:55

Gregorian chanting. You know Greg.

Kyle: 00:25:57

He ought to feel bad for Greg, right? Of Gregorian. Yeah. Good guy. That was horrible. I'm cut that.

Seth: 00:26:03

Yeah, you should. No, you should leave it in for your shame.

Kyle: 00:26:06

Horrible joke.

Seth: 00:26:08

Randos.

Kyle: 00:26:09

All right, here we go. The kids were originally supposed to be 8 to 10, but they ended up running into.

Because there were still these things in the script about, like, the Wendy Peppercorn thing, and there was all this stuff. A lot of the script was there, but just with eight to 10.

Seth: 00:26:24

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:26:24

And I think pretty quickly they realized and they said the. The profound hormonal differences added.

Seth: 00:26:28

Yeah. Issues. So. Oh, yeah.

Kyle: 00:26:30

They revamped it.

Seth: 00:26:32

Yeah. That. That kind of tracks. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of the same thing with, like, Stephen King writing kids into stories.

Like, sometimes you just got to air older on. On screen yeah.

Kyle: 00:26:42

King should not be allowed to add kids to stories anymore.

Seth: 00:26:45

No.

Kyle: 00:26:46

Even.

Seth: 00:26:46

Not after it.

Kyle: 00:26:47

Even. Even 50 years later.

Seth: 00:26:49

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:26:49

After it came out. Have you read it?

Paula: 00:26:52

I have not watched one horror movie. That was with my will.

Kyle: 00:26:58

Okay.

Paula: 00:26:59

Like, I'm. I'm not a horror movie person.

Seth: 00:27:00

Yeah, Fair.

Paula: 00:27:01

I'm like a crazy person who's like, that's gonna give me anxiety.

Kyle: 00:27:04

And we should make you and Mariana watch one and then have you two just talk about it. Because she is. Horror movies. Yeah, she loves it.

Seth: 00:27:13

Oh, that'd be fun.

Kyle: 00:27:14

That'd be hilarious. Because she's all about them.

Paula: 00:27:16

I. I used to get into, like, more, like Criminal Minds and stuff.

Kyle: 00:27:19

Oh, cool.

Paula: 00:27:20

And I remember really having struggles with, like, real anxiety and then going to, like, a therapist, and they were like, well, I mean, we could just stop doing that. And it helps a lot. Thanks.

Kyle: 00:27:34

Yeah. Just stop watching the thing.

Seth: 00:27:36

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:27:36

Is that. That's what you're saying?

Paula: 00:27:37

Yeah.

Seth: 00:27:37

Stop watching. Stop drinking six coffees a day and stop watching everything about how men want to kill women. Let's just calm down.

Paula: 00:27:45

I was like, I think I have anxiety. And she's like, I think I would if I were you, too. Yeah, you should cut that out.

Kyle: 00:27:51

Kind of like how I get hungry when I watch Silence of the Lambs. Anybody else?

Seth: 00:27:54

No, no, no.

Kyle: 00:27:57

You know what I'm saying? Just kidding. I'm not a cannibal. I don't advocate for cannibalism. Never have.

Seth: 00:28:04

Okay. Army hammer arm. Yeah, dude.

Kyle: 00:28:07

Bill Maher was defending Army Hammer. He was like, he didn't eat anybody.

Seth: 00:28:09

He didn't. It was a fetish. He didn't actually eat anybody. But it's still weird.

Kyle: 00:28:13

It's weird what we call a fetish these days.

Seth: 00:28:15

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:28:16

You know, that's. That's how you, like, like, tamper down.

Seth: 00:28:19

Yeah.

Paula: 00:28:20

You know, let's normalize being normal.

Kyle: 00:28:23

Yeah. Yeah. Let's eat food from. And not from your neighbor's dead body.

Seth: 00:28:27

Yes.

Kyle: 00:28:30

This is crazy. So you were talking about Smalls, right? You're killing me. Smalls. That was ad libbed, actually.

And it was something that he just kept randomly saying, and every time he would say it, they would crack up and they're like, we got to get it in the movie. And so they ended up. Yeah. Putting it in the film.

Paula: 00:28:45

Wow, that's awesome.

Kyle: 00:28:47

It has plagued him, though. And just specifically, like, for example, he. There I. In my research, apparently, like, someone would come up with them, like.

Like the word Smalls tattooed on their inner thigh, and they. They, like, show it to Him. But everything I've read about about him is that he is such a good sport.

Seth: 00:29:02

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:29:02

That he kind of just goes with it.

Seth: 00:29:04

Fair.

Kyle: 00:29:04

Because this is his character.

Seth: 00:29:06

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:29:06

This is who he is. Like, one of my favorite movies of all time is Son in Law with Paulie Shore. It's my favorite Thanksgiving movie.

Seth: 00:29:11

Okay.

Kyle: 00:29:12

Because it's actually about Thanksgiving, you know, and he plays just an older version of Porter in that movie. He's like. Yeah, he's. He's hilarious. And he's just the same guy. The curly hair, the red hair and. But he's a good sport.

And apparently, like, he goes and plays golf with fans. Like, he's. He's very. Yeah. And he's one of the first people. I don't know if he's one of the first, but he's like one of the biggest on cameo.

You know, you can get cameos. He's all over that thing. I think he's one of the highest requested.

Seth: 00:29:38

That's awesome.

Kyle: 00:29:38

Cameos.

Paula: 00:29:39

I think he.

Seth: 00:29:39

For you.

Paula: 00:29:40

Perfect for cameo. Like, you know, not so crazy big where you're like, you can't have a cameo, but big enough where people are like, I want to hear from that.

Seth: 00:29:49

Yeah.

Paula: 00:29:49

He's the.

Seth: 00:29:50

I mean. Yeah. When you get that famous for.

For a role that young, I mean, it's kind of like the whole Daniel Radcliffe or Elijah Wood situation where it's like you have to either go so wacky with every single other role that you do.

Kyle: 00:30:04

Yeah.

Seth: 00:30:04

Everyone still remembers you for the other one, but still sees you as a different type of actor.

Kyle: 00:30:08

Yeah.

Seth: 00:30:09

Or you just lean into it. And if that's what's going to make you a half a million dollars a year is just recording 30 second videos a few times a day, then do it.

Like, whatever.

Paula: 00:30:18

Right.

Kyle: 00:30:18

Yeah.

Paula: 00:30:18

I do think it's like, I really like the Office and Rain Wilson is like such a. It's kind of a heartbreak for me because he seems to hate so much that people, like, only really know him from Dwight.

And it's like, dude, I don't know what to tell you. First of all, Dwight was a great show or great character. So I don't know why you're embarrassed about it and to like, you're.

I haven't seen much else of what you've been doing, so, like.

Seth: 00:30:44

Oh, he's done plenty of other stuff. He's a fantastic actor outside of the Office. Like, the. The indie movies I've seen from him are incredible.

Paula: 00:30:50

Okay.

Seth: 00:30:51

But this is hands down his biggest role.

Paula: 00:30:54

Right. And just everybody Loves it so much. I just don't like when actors are like, oh, I'm so annoyed. Everybody only knows me for that.

And it's like, well, how do you pay for your house?

Seth: 00:31:04

Yeah.

Paula: 00:31:05

Like, you know, would you like to rescind that?

Seth: 00:31:08

Yeah.

Paula: 00:31:09

You want to go back and like, it just makes people happy. Just be happy. It makes people happy. I don't.

Kyle: 00:31:14

Right. Yeah.

Seth: 00:31:15

Grateful Rainn Wilson.

Paula: 00:31:16

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:31:17

Yeah. There are, like, wonky. Yeah. Like, there are just. And we talk about this a lot on the podcast, but there's.

It's sad, like, sometimes either as a person like Tom Cruise, for. I'm not gonna say sad for Tom Cruise. He's doing fine, but his. His personality is just so crazy off stage.

Seth: 00:31:35

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:31:35

That when you watch it, you just. You're trying to watch the character he's supposed to be, but you're like, that's Tom Cruise.

You know, and then you have this other part of it where, like, you play this kind of thing, this character early in your life.

Seth: 00:31:46

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:31:46

Kind of like Danny Lloyd from the Shining. He never acted again after that.

Seth: 00:31:50

Same with Charlie Bucket from. From Willy Wonka.

Kyle: 00:31:53

Oh, really?

Seth: 00:31:54

That was his only role.

Kyle: 00:31:55

I wouldn't act after that either.

Seth: 00:31:56

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:31:56

What a weird movie. Yeah.

Paula: 00:32:00

It's kind of unsettling.

Kyle: 00:32:01

Apparently. This is side topic. Apparently Wilder was like, method acting all over that movie.

Seth: 00:32:06

Oh, I'm not surprised.

Kyle: 00:32:07

And apparently it scared people.

Seth: 00:32:08

Yeah. The stories I hear from that movie, that's kind of. I mean, that's kind of what needed to have.

Kind of what we were talking about with Saving Private Ryan. Were. Were saying Steven Spielberg kept Matt Damon separate from everybody. You have to find a way to build that tension.

Kyle: 00:32:21

Yeah.

Seth: 00:32:22

Especially when dealing with child actors.

Kyle: 00:32:23

Yeah.

Paula: 00:32:24

Southern. I had a conversation about method acting one time.

Kyle: 00:32:27

Oh, wow.

Seth: 00:32:28

We did. She's very against it. I think it's incredible when it's done correctly. Cheating.

Kyle: 00:32:32

You think it's cheating? Yeah, because they're not acting. They're being.

Paula: 00:32:36

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:32:36

Is that right?

Paula: 00:32:36

Right. It's like. It's like someone who's like, I want to act like I'm in a cult. And they go do a. Like, they're in a cult.

And you're like, hey, girl, you don't need to act. You're in it. You're doing it.

Kyle: 00:32:48

That. But that. Is it easy to be. Because they're still transforming themselves to some. I'm just being devil's advocate.

Paula: 00:32:53

Yeah. I think it is easier to be than to act.

Kyle: 00:32:56

Yeah.

Seth: 00:32:56

Because I think that. But. But I don't. I Don't see most actors spending two or three months in.

In the streets of Brooklyn hanging out with heroin addicts to learn how to be a heroin addict for Requiem for a Dream, like Jared Leto did. Like, that's the same amount of work as someone who can or does switch on and off.

But Even then, like, 90% of the time, we don't see people rave about an acting performance where someone's just on and off whenever they're on screen. Most of those people are also just playing one character their whole career.

Paula: 00:33:31

Yeah, you're right. I think my rebuttal to that is, if I spent three months earnestly trying to be a heroin addict, I think I could be a heroin addict.

Kyle: 00:33:40

Yeah.

Paula: 00:33:40

But if I had to pretend to be a heroin addict for an hour, I think I would really struggle. So to me, it's like, that's harder. That seems harder.

And probably why so many people do better when they method act, because it's like, yeah, well, if that's all you in do for months at a time, it just seems like you. It would be. I get. I totally agree. It's a lot of work, though.

Seth: 00:34:04

Yeah. But see, my question there would be. I don't. And not a slight to you, but I don't think you could make it the three months pretending to be homeless.

Paula: 00:34:11

Oh, 100% I die.

Seth: 00:34:13

But because I'm like, it depends on where you put the work. And I think a lot of actors, for a movie of that gravitas, they don't want to be distracted on set. They want to be in the moment 100% of the time.

So they put all of that prep work in so that. Yeah, when they are on set, it's easier. Easier. But it makes things easier for everybody.

Paula: 00:34:34

Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, you're right. I would be. If anything, I would be so good at being a drug addict that I would. Yeah, drug addict.

Seth: 00:34:42

You never come back.

Paula: 00:34:43

And then I would die. And they would be like, man, if only she had made it, she would have killed this role.

Kyle: 00:34:49

Yeah.

Paula: 00:34:49

She's such a drug addict.

Seth: 00:34:51

I get a phone call from John. He's like, yeah, Paula was trying to be in Requiem for a Dream too. And I don't know where she is, bro.

Kyle: 00:34:58

I'm just gonna have to play somebody that owes OD'd somewhere in a bathroom in a 7 11.

Paula: 00:35:02

Did she get the role? You're like, she would have.

Seth: 00:35:05

She'd made it. I don't know.

Kyle: 00:35:07

I get both sides, you know, in the. And I. I'm an appreciator of method acting. But other actors who don't do it, some consider it to be rude. Like, you know.

Well, and the worst example is Jim Carrey during Man on the Moon, where he actually. He drove an actual car through the set because he was, like. He was, like, driving like Andy Kaufman, and he was so Andy Kaufman that he.

He had moved beyond being Andy Kaufman, and he was some weird Jim Carrey gremlin hybrid of.

Seth: 00:35:33

See, that's where I think there's a line, because method acting is. Is, I think, a very valid way to do it. As long as you're not fucking with everyone else's process.

Paula: 00:35:43

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:35:44

Yeah.

Seth: 00:35:44

Because that's where. And I know a lot of people overblow what happened with Jared Leto on Suicide Squad. He. He never sent an actual used condom to Margot Robbie.

It was just an unrolled condom. He sent a rat that she ended up, like, adopting as her pet.

Like, he was doing that kind of stuff not to mess with people, but to just kind of prepare them for who he was gonna be when he walked on set. And I think there's. Again, that's kind of some people. That's over the line. Some people. That's right up to the line. But it's like, that's where.

If you're ruining things for everybody by being method actor, then you're not a method actor. You're an asshole.

Kyle: 00:36:22

Yeah.

Paula: 00:36:22

Okay. I'm on board with. Did you think someone pulled Jim Carrey aside and be like, hey, man, I.

Seth: 00:36:27

Don'T think anyone had the confidence to do that.

Paula: 00:36:30

Like, you're Jim Carrey, and you can't pretend to run a car through the set like you're Jim Carrey. You can't. I think most people could. Like, I don't know. I just. For Jim Carrey being amazing as he is, it's like, you couldn't have faked that one.

Seth: 00:36:44

Yeah.

Paula: 00:36:45

I feel like you wanted to do.

Kyle: 00:36:47

That, especially for something that didn't happen in the movie.

Seth: 00:36:49

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:36:50

He didn't drive a car through his head ever in the movie. That didn't even happen.

Paula: 00:36:54

I didn't know that. I'm sorry.

Kyle: 00:36:55

No, it's great. No, no. But it proves your point.

Seth: 00:36:57

Yeah. Like, that wasn't something that's messing with people.

Kyle: 00:37:00

Yeah. He did it because he's like, this is how Andy Kaufman would drive to work.

Paula: 00:37:06

Like, that's why we don't have that scene in the movie.

Seth: 00:37:08

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:37:09

Because he killed somebody.

Seth: 00:37:11

No, he didn't.

Kyle: 00:37:13

No. Well, some people say he was the reason that his Wife committed suicide. But that's a different episode. That's different. That's different. Yeah.

Read the letter. I'm kidding. I don't know how I feel. Okay, let's change. Let's talk about Jim Carrey now.

Seth: 00:37:29

Screw the sandlot.

Kyle: 00:37:30

Through the sandlot. Let's talk about room 23. A couple more randos here. So apparently these boys acted like they were at camp when they did this movie.

So they were in a lot of trouble. They got in a fight. Someone punched Reena in the face. Or Rena. They punched him in the face. And then they snuck into Basic Instinct and watched it.

And they had Playboy magazines in the treehouse prop. And apparently they were just. They were. They were acting like rambunctious teenagers. I mean, on set method.

Seth: 00:38:01

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:38:01

They drove a car through the treehouse.

Seth: 00:38:03

Yeah. I don't know.

I think especially with kids, like, it's so hard to get performances that good at a kids that you have to do something to make them feel like they've been best friends for forever.

Paula: 00:38:15

Yeah.

Seth: 00:38:15

So I mean it. I. I get it. Like, you kind of let some things slide when you're just like, all right, they're just being kids and then. Then, yeah.

Suddenly they're sneaking into R rated movies and you're like, oh, God, come on, guys.

Kyle: 00:38:27

Yeah. Last rando. Apparently Dennis Leary, who I love and love in this movie.

Seth: 00:38:31

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:38:31

Because he's a die hard sports fan from Boston. He refused. I guess like the original glove he wanted to use had something to do with the Yankees.

There was like Yankee stuff they would want him to touch and handle and props. And he was like, no. So even he was. His sports loyalties lied so deep.

Seth: 00:38:46

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:38:46

That he was. He only would handle things non New York.

Seth: 00:38:48

Yeah.

Paula: 00:38:49

That's.

Seth: 00:38:49

Unless it was the Babe Ruth ball.

Kyle: 00:38:50

Yeah. Which usually would be annoying. But it's like, it's like I get the Boston, New York, Louisiana. Those three cities are like. Yeah. Like die hard.

Seth: 00:38:59

Yeah. Especially in the 90s. Like, that's when baseball, like I feel like pre 60s baseball was at a real time, all high, all time high.

And then the 90s is really when it came back.

Kyle: 00:39:11

Yeah. Yeah. And Dennis Leary, man. Like we get to this in supporting cast.

But one of my all time favorite I'm gonna date myself ready Comedy cassettes that I had growing up was no cure for cancer. I think that's the one that had the song on it.

Seth: 00:39:23

Oh, nice.

Kyle: 00:39:23

I'm an asshole. Did you ever hear that song go, if you're young and you haven't listened to Dennis Leary's no cure for cancer tape. Now, it's probably digital.

You probably can find it on Spotify. But go find the tape.

Seth: 00:39:36

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:39:37

Go find the cassette.

Seth: 00:39:38

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:39:38

And it's amazing. It's. He's smoking the whole time and he's screaming like he was one of the original ragers on stage. He's like.

Seth: 00:39:45

And you know what I do when.

Kyle: 00:39:46

I say I got cancer?

Seth: 00:39:47

I get another sticker. Right?

Kyle: 00:39:48

He's like, that's him. The whole. That's him for an hour.

Seth: 00:39:51

Nice.

Kyle: 00:39:51

And it's amazing.

Seth: 00:39:52

So Bill Burr before Bill Burr.

Kyle: 00:39:54

Yeah. Both from Boston.

Seth: 00:39:56

That makes sense. That makes sense.

Kyle: 00:39:58

Shall we hit one over the fence?

Seth: 00:40:00

Let's do it.

Kyle: 00:40:00

Shall we include people who are outside our circle and change their life dramatically? Shall we fake, drown and forge lifelong friendships?

Seth: 00:40:08

Shall we fight a puppet dog?

Kyle: 00:40:10

Let's fight a puppet dog.

Seth: 00:40:11

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:40:11

Let's war. You want to do the war cards?

Paula: 00:40:14

Yeah. Wow. That was an out of body experience. I was like desperately trying to think all that can related to the movie.

Kyle: 00:40:22

Yeah.

Paula: 00:40:22

I was like, I'm missing something.

Kyle: 00:40:23

That's how we get people into the war card. Maybe we should explain that to people.

Seth: 00:40:27

Did you not know that the dog was a puppet for most of the movie?

Paula: 00:40:31

No.

Seth: 00:40:31

Oh, yeah. So up until those last few shots of the dog, the dog was a. Was a puppet.

Paula: 00:40:36

Oh, wait, you're saying. I thought you meant at the end the dog was a puppet. I was like, that's an amazing puppet.

Kyle: 00:40:44

No, it actually is a deleted scene. They turned him into a puppet. They actually killed the dog.

Seth: 00:40:49

Geppetto showed up.

Kyle: 00:40:50

I'm kidding. I love dogs. I got two retrievers. Shout out Ollie and Sadie. May I have. I have a Sadie Mace on them.

Seth: 00:40:56

Shout out. The dog bar show that we did yesterday, that was fun as hell.

Kyle: 00:41:01

Were there any retrievers here?

Seth: 00:41:02

So many.

Paula: 00:41:03

One of them followed me to the bathroom.

Kyle: 00:41:05

Oh, they're loyal, but dumb. That's what I tell mine. Ollie and Sadie, my hero. Shout out. Sadie's gonna be three in like two weeks.

Seth: 00:41:12

Oh, wow.

Kyle: 00:41:13

Happy birthday, girl. She listens to the show while you edit it. While I edit it? Yeah, Literally, Ollie has his foot on my heel.

It probably freaks him out to see me and like. But where's your voice coming from?

Seth: 00:41:24

Yeah. Are you a ventriloquist?

Kyle: 00:41:26

Are you Top Bill cast? Here we go. This is interesting because it's Tom. So Tom Geary actually, who plays Smalls is in Top Bill.

Mike Vitar and then Art Lafleur who played Babe Ruth is actually Top bill. You know, he only does the Babe Ruth scene. So Mike is Benny, who didn't. I got really curious and did a lot of studying.

So Tom Gary did go on to do more movies. He was in U571, did a couple of things. Not like major films, but Mike, who plays Benny, didn't really do anything. Yeah. So.

But Art lafleur, the great Art lafleur who played Babe.

Seth: 00:41:58

Yeah. Yeah, I think they are. Especially the kids, I think crushed it. Like, it's. It's like I've.

Like I've said several times, it's very difficult to get performances that great out of kids. But it. Yeah, as. As much as it felt like the theatrical kind of acting of the the 70s and 80s, it kind of fit with the 60s vibe of.

Of how the film was set. So I think they crushed it.

Like, it was just theatrical enough that it was still like kind of that fever dream fantasy situation, like, because he's retelling memories from his perspective. So it's all going to be a little overblown, but it was still fun to watch. So what's the. What's the yes and no?

Kyle: 00:42:36

Yes is s'. Mores. No is scabby.

Seth: 00:42:38

It's a s' mores for me.

Kyle: 00:42:39

S'. Mores.

Seth: 00:42:40

S'.

Paula: 00:42:40

Mores. Yeah.

Kyle: 00:42:41

You dig it?

Paula: 00:42:42

Yeah. I thought they did a good job.

The kids acting reminded me of how in A Christmas Story, he goes back in retells, and it's kind of got that, like a little bit of theatrical. Well, it's pretty theatrical, but. So I agree with Seth on that. And I also thought they did a good job of finding, like, real.

Like they looked like kids.

Seth: 00:43:00

Yeah.

Paula: 00:43:00

Because that's one of my pet peeves about a lot of, like, as. Like, I grew up on the Disney Channel and it was like all these actors who were supposed to be like 12, but they looked like they were 19.

Seth: 00:43:12

Yeah.

Paula: 00:43:13

And it's like they looked like kids. They acted like kids. I thought that was good.

Seth: 00:43:17

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:43:17

Love that. I go the same way. I love. I love Smalls. I think it's a fantastic character. I love Benny. I think there's.

We talked a lot about kid acting on this podcast and how it's very. Been very hit or miss until like the last three years.

All sudden there's like a couple of shows like Stranger Things just like, why is everybody so good in this?

Seth: 00:43:33

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:43:33

But that wasn't always the case. But here. And maybe it's just because of the material. Whatever it was, they. They just did really well.

And, you know, even though Art La Floor is only in the one scene.

Seth: 00:43:42

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:43:42

He was a perfect Babe Ruth.

Seth: 00:43:43

He crushed it.

Kyle: 00:43:44

Yeah. Although the other, you know, the other person to famously play Babe Ruth was John Goodman. So that was it. I was thinking about that. I was like, huh?

I think it's called Babe.

Seth: 00:43:53

Okay.

Kyle: 00:43:53

I think it's called Babe Ruth. I can't remember. I saw it a long time ago.

Seth: 00:43:55

But I do love that when he can't throw, he's like. He tries to throw and then he just walks up and hands it to the guy. He's like, sorry. Just so perfect.

Kyle: 00:44:06

I love it. One to zero. All right, supporting cast, here we go. And I'm not going to name all the children. Okay.

Seth: 00:44:13

Them.

Kyle: 00:44:14

No. It's just a lot of them didn't end up doing anything. I think Squints, though. Squints. Chauncey, Leah. Leah. Party did move on to do other things.

And of course, Patrick Rena, who played Ham, went on to do other things. But we'll get on down to Dennis Leary, the great Dennis Leary. And then Karen Allen as the mom. And of course the great late James Earl Jones.

And I'm going to mention Marley Shelton here, who played Wendy Peppercorn because she was in Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof.

Seth: 00:44:37

Oh. Which I still need to see.

Kyle: 00:44:38

That's a good one. A lot of people don't like it. I love that one.

Seth: 00:44:41

It's a s' mores for me. Like, I thought. I thought Dennis Leary had a beautiful balance of. Clearly was.

Was just slightly uncomfortable with being a stepfather, but also genuinely wanted to try to step up. And. And even though it took some coaxing from. From the mom, like, I think he played that balance really well. You could tell that he.

Because a lot of times I feel like in. Especially in movies set in the 60s and maybe even shot in the 60s, the stepfather was kind of an ass hole.

Kyle: 00:45:09

Yeah.

Seth: 00:45:10

And. And I think he just was trying, but didn't quite know what to do in that. In those situations. So Wendy Peppercorn, I think, did a great job. Again.

All the kids, I think, crushed it in all of their respective roles. I still think Squint looks like Steve. Oh, yeah.

Kyle: 00:45:27

A little bit.

Seth: 00:45:28

The. The whole time I was like, that's got to be. No, it's not. Be Steve.

Kyle: 00:45:32

Sobriety Stevo. Yeah.

Seth: 00:45:35

But yeah, it's a s' mores for me. I think everyone did a great job.

Kyle: 00:45:37

Love it.

Paula: 00:45:38

Yeah. Yeah. I would say it's a s'. Mores.

I'm not always a great Judge of, like, if something's like, considered like bad acting or good acting, which maybe goes to this, maybe that makes that. My method acting point isn't that great because I heard other difference anyway.

But I thought everyone acted really well, and I was, like, convincing, and I thought that I liked that the parents seemed like they genuinely were present. Like, they're like, get out of here.

You know, but like, it's not like a lot of the modern shows I grew up on where the parents were like, the enemies. Yeah, yeah, I appreciated that that wasn't the case.

Kyle: 00:46:14

Yeah, yeah. Totally agree.

And knowing that I grew up with the Dennis Larry I described earlier on his comedy specials and seeing him be really restrained here, you know, it's interesting, too. One thing I'll add something to you that you said that was really profound was that, like, the stepfather usually was a jerk or.

Or, you know, hands off.

But this was also depicting a time period where now, like, going back to me as a parent, like, you know, we talk about gentle parenting and being emotionally engaged, which are all things I'm on board with and I try to do, but it was bad. It was hard enough for dads during this era to be emotionally available if you weren't in Vietnam or coming back from Vietnam.

Seth: 00:46:48

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:46:49

You know, or going to Vietnam or.

Seth: 00:46:51

Even the Korean War.

Kyle: 00:46:52

Or the Korean War. Yeah.

But, you know, or being somehow closely in the relative timeline of World War II or whatever it was, you know, there was a time period where that wasn't necessarily an expectation, but Dennis Leary adds a lot of layer there, I think, to also not only that stuff, but being a stepdad. So I thought he did great. I kept waiting for him to go, you know, but he showed restraint.

And I thought, you know, he ended up doing more acting than comedy. I mean, he basically stopped doing stand up and did Burn Notice on TV for years. He did Mostly tv.

Seth: 00:47:22

Yeah. So also, we got to talk about James Earl Jones and how. Yeah, freaking great he was as this character.

Kyle: 00:47:28

I feel like if a movie needs gravitas, it's like you can just depend on James Earl Jones.

Seth: 00:47:33

Absolutely.

Kyle: 00:47:33

The Voice.

Seth: 00:47:34

Oh, yeah.

Kyle: 00:47:35

He brings a presence and he just kind of anchors everything.

Seth: 00:47:37

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:47:38

He ties it all together. And, you know, and they could have very easily made that a throwaway role, but then they bring him in. It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Seth: 00:47:45

And he's so good. Like, just. I love. I love how he's just casually, like, letting the kids realize who he is.

Kyle: 00:47:53

Yeah, George.

Seth: 00:47:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So good.

Kyle: 00:47:57

But you dig it.

Paula: 00:47:58

I like. I thought. Yeah, I did.

Kyle: 00:48:00

Awesome. We are at 2 to 0.

Seth: 00:48:03

Look at you with the spreadsheet.

Kyle: 00:48:04

Spreadsheets. I know.

Seth: 00:48:06

He gets very confused without it. He'll start making up numbers and be like, we're 37 to 52. Not a numbers guy, despite dealing with them all day, every day.

Kyle: 00:48:15

Written by David Mickey Evans, who also directed it, and then Robert Gunton Gunter. And I'm trying to see what else they've written. Basically, a bunch of, like, sandlot prequels and stuff that never came to be. Yeah.

Seth: 00:48:27

Because there are a bunch of sandlot sequels that I know Squints was in pretty much all of them.

Kyle: 00:48:31

My teacher, my friend, associate producer, doesn't even have a photograph. That's how you know what's good.

Paula: 00:48:35

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:48:36

And then Journey to the Center, Earth, the TV movie. So aside from the sandlot, this guy. And then. Oh, Squint. I guess.

So, one thing I found on my research, not all of them came to be, but there's a bunch of little, like, vignettes and stuff that later came to be. Like, ham has his own. They have all these, like, TV specials about sandlot. And all these people are involved.

Seth: 00:48:55

So that's great.

Kyle: 00:48:56

Yeah. But, yeah, sandlot's really the only thing on here of note.

Seth: 00:48:59

Okay.

Paula: 00:48:59

I don't like when people do that. It's like, I don't. I don't always, like, if it's unnecessary to have, like, a sequel and a sequel and keep going.

It's like, just let the movie stand alone. Yeah, it was great. Let's put it in a nice little box and let's put all that energy into a new project.

Kyle: 00:49:15

I agree.

Seth: 00:49:15

Yeah. But as far as the writing goes. Yeah, writing was fantastic. This.

This felt like reading like a boxcard children book for me or like an Encyclopedia Brown book. It had that fun, exciting, but just a little wacky at times. Like. But also, you're.

Paula: 00:49:31

You're.

Seth: 00:49:32

You're totally viewing the entire situation through the lens of these kids.

Kyle: 00:49:37

Right.

Seth: 00:49:38

Especially with how menacing the dog is and how there's, like, the legend behind the house, behind the fence. Like, it's. It's all so overblown, but in such a fun way. It's. It's very well written. Other than.

Yeah, just a couple of the sequences kind of dragged a little bit. But it's. It's like, other than that, it was such a fun movie, especially as someone who didn't grow up with it. So.

Yeah, no, this is a s' mores for me. It was fantastically written.

Kyle: 00:50:04

Love It.

Paula: 00:50:05

Yeah, I would give it a s', mores too. Although I noticed, like, just in general through both of the movies that we watched, I can't tell if just.

I mean, obviously our attention span has gone worse, so I can't tell if it was that the writing, like, made it too long or if I've just grown up in a very, like, world and now anything that requires any level of, like, downtime is not good enough. You know what I mean?

Kyle: 00:50:33

Yeah.

Paula: 00:50:33

So when I would catch myself being like, this is long, I would be like, maybe I just. My attention span shot.

Seth: 00:50:40

Yeah. The one sequence that really stuck out to me that could have been tightened up a little bit was the one where the dog escapes. Yeah, like that.

And I know it was kind of the climax of the movie, so they really wanted it to be a big deal, but it's like nothing needed to be cut out, just tightened up. You could have. You could have taken that scene from the, what, maybe five minutes that. It was maybe like three and a half.

Kyle: 00:51:01

Yeah.

Seth: 00:51:02

Like, just chop out a minute and a half. Just whittle your way through it. But again, it wasn't even that. That much that I was like, oh, this sucks. It was just like, ah, this could.

This could move along a little bit.

Kyle: 00:51:11

But yeah, some of the dog stuff, for me, it's. Before the dog gets out the. The. When they're trying to get the ball.

Seth: 00:51:17

Yeah. That those things could have been tightened up.

Like, I don't think any of them needed to be cut out, but, yeah, just could have moved it a little bit faster. It was an hour 40. I think it easily could have been an hour 33 and it would have.

Kyle: 00:51:29

Been a perfect movie and some change.

Paula: 00:51:31

Yeah. Did you guys think that when they were telling the story of the. Like this. Like the. The Beast, that that story ran a little long?

Seth: 00:51:40

A little bit.

Paula: 00:51:41

And, yeah, I couldn't tell if that was a choice because kids stories are long or if it was just, like, how that was. But I was like, man, it feels like they're taking a long time to say that they don't know what's going on back there.

Seth: 00:51:52

You know, I could see a legitimate artistic argument be made for that's. That's why that particular sequence was that way. So I think, yeah, I could. I could buy it. I. Yeah, again, same with all the other little things.

Like, yeah, just a little. Little tightening and I would have zero issues with the movie. But even this was not big enough for me to have an issue with it.

Kyle: 00:52:10

So, yeah, I actually, I'LL save some. I have some comments on that, but I'll save for the what's in front of us category, because I actually. I actually think it was intentional.

But yeah, I go s' mores as well.

And the reason I like it is, you know, first of all, kids are only legally allowed to film so many hours a day or so many minutes a day, and then they have to, like, go do school. Like, there's all these legal requirements around casting children.

Seth: 00:52:31

It's like, I think they get an hour before for makeup and then eight hours on set, no more, no less. And that's whether or not they're in front of the camera. They're just there.

They can only be there for eight hours and then like 30 minutes to an hour to take off makeup. And then they're.

Kyle: 00:52:44

They have frequent breaks. Yeah. And it used to be more stringent. Oh, yeah, yeah.

And so the reason I point that out is, like, they had to write dialogue that these kids could deliver, so. And they did it in a great way. What was written for them was fantastic.

Seth: 00:52:57

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:52:57

It was almost like they knew the perfect mix of we're only going to have this much availability. We can only film with kids this much.

Seth: 00:53:04

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:53:04

We got to write something funny, interesting with gravitas, and they just nailed it.

Seth: 00:53:08

Yeah, absolutely.

Kyle: 00:53:09

Yeah. I think the writing is a big part of the reason why you can watch this as a 10 year old and a 40 year old and it resonates.

Seth: 00:53:15

Yeah, yeah.

Kyle: 00:53:16

So huge s'. Mores.

Paula: 00:53:18

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:53:19

3 to 0. We are getting the ball from the fenced area here. Directing guy with three names. David. Mickey Evans. Yeah, director. And he.

He did do one other thing of note. Radio Flyer and Ed.

Seth: 00:53:36

Okay.

Kyle: 00:53:37

Oh, he wrote. He wrote. Yeah, Radio. Oh, he's uncredited on Radio Flyer. He was uncredited on the thing that you haven't heard of.

Seth: 00:53:45

Amazing.

Kyle: 00:53:45

But Radio Flyer was a kid. You would. You probably recognize the poster, but it had Lorraine Barocco, John Hurd, and Adam Baldwin. I remember that from when I was a kid.

It wasn't very good.

Seth: 00:53:56

This is a s' mores for me. I think it's already hard enough to deal with child actors in general. And then on top of that, the entire main cast is nothing but kids.

I'd say probably 80% of the movie is just the kids. No one else is. Is interacting with them, especially adults.

Kyle: 00:54:13

Yeah.

Seth: 00:54:13

So to be able. Do you have any idea how. What the. Like, how long the schedule was? Like, how long they shot?

Kyle: 00:54:19

42 days.

Seth: 00:54:20

42. Holy crap. Okay, that's even More insane because. Yeah. Dealing with kids having the SAG requirements of how.

How you can deal with kids on set, like, that's incredible. The fact that, that this fell together so well.

Kyle: 00:54:35

Right.

Seth: 00:54:36

Just speaks volumes. It's sad that he didn't direct anything after this, like, really of note because. Yeah. This would have been incredible to start.

Kyle: 00:54:42

And the IMDb cast page only has 38 names on it.

Seth: 00:54:46

Wow.

Kyle: 00:54:46

So it's pretty. Pretty slim.

Seth: 00:54:48

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:54:48

Yeah.

Seth: 00:54:49

But yes. S'. Mores. It's fantastic.

Kyle: 00:54:51

What do you think?

Paula: 00:54:51

Yeah. I thought it was good.

What I was really impressed about was not only the kids stuff that I didn't think about that as much in the moment, but like the set is like pretty unassuming. I mean, it's the same lot.

Seth: 00:55:02

Yeah.

Paula: 00:55:03

And so I think that whenever a director can take a really like, blah area and make it interesting and you know, you spend so much of the movie like in that space.

Seth: 00:55:15

Yeah.

Paula: 00:55:15

And I think it's so easy for it to get like, boring because I mean, it's a bunch of kids on a lot.

Seth: 00:55:20

Yeah.

Paula: 00:55:20

But they were able to make it stay interesting. And so I, I really appreciated that.

Seth: 00:55:26

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:55:26

Love it. Yeah. A lot of great choices here. Agree with everything you said about it just being a bunch of kids. Then you add the other kids. Baseball team.

Seth: 00:55:32

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:55:32

The adversarial team. More kids.

Seth: 00:55:35

That was such a good scene.

Kyle: 00:55:37

It was.

Seth: 00:55:38

And keep stalking smack at the plate. And he's like, what? We're just having a conversation.

Kyle: 00:55:43

And the. The ringleader of that team.

Seth: 00:55:45

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:55:45

Was really good though. The aggression at which he was insulting.

Seth: 00:55:48

But also the perf. Pansy.

Kyle: 00:55:50

Yes.

Paula: 00:55:52

I saw a comment that was like, I love how when the, when he was like, girls play like a girl. None of his teammates backed him up.

Kyle: 00:56:01

Yeah.

Paula: 00:56:02

And I, I thought that. I was like, that's a great comment and a good writing. Sl directing choice to be like.

Seth: 00:56:06

Wow.

Kyle: 00:56:07

Yeah.

Seth: 00:56:07

Absolutely.

Paula: 00:56:08

We know that.

Kyle: 00:56:09

Yeah. And they. He just did a great job. There's not a lot of set pieces. There's not a lot of sets. It's a house.

It's, you know, the pool, the sandlot, the occasional maybe inside of a building. But there's not a lot of sets happening. Not a lot of locations.

Seth: 00:56:23

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:56:24

But it was a seven million dollar budget. And because that's crazy.

Seth: 00:56:28

Made for that little.

Kyle: 00:56:29

Yeah. And because it's depicting the 60s, they didn't have to pull in a lot of props.

If you think about it, to make you feel like the 60s, but somehow the vibe.

Seth: 00:56:37

It was the cars mostly Honestly, I mean, you pick any random small town in the, the, the part of the US you're trying to aim for. A lot of them still have those 60s vibes. So you put the cars in there and the costuming and that, that nails it.

Kyle: 00:56:51

Yeah, yeah. They delivered big time for that small of a budget. So they transport you with. With little effort.

Seth: 00:56:57

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:56:57

So.

Paula: 00:56:57

Right.

Kyle: 00:56:58

Great choices.

Paula: 00:56:58

Absolutely.

Kyle: 00:56:59

Yeah.

Paula: 00:57:00

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:57:00

Did you have something else?

Paula: 00:57:01

No.

Kyle: 00:57:01

Cool.

Paula: 00:57:02

It's really dream.

Kyle: 00:57:03

Yeah. That's awesome. Yep. Four, two, zero. What's in front of us?

Seth: 00:57:07

We're knocking it over the fence.

Kyle: 00:57:09

We're knocking it over the fence. We are. We're gonna find the baseball. Yeah, we're gonna find it. What's in front of us?

The cinematography, production design, sound, costumes, editing and stunts.

Seth: 00:57:19

Yeah, I, I, I, I'm definitely gonna go. Okay. So not to be critical, it's. It's a scoach over, not a squeak. We have a, we have a scale here. If it's like, just barely above, it's a squeak.

If it's even a little bit more, but not like, overwhelmingly, it's scoach.

Paula: 00:57:35

Okay.

Seth: 00:57:36

It's a scotch above for me because while I think everything fit well, there was also nothing necessarily of note where I'm like, oh, that's a crazy cool shot. Or that's this. It was all very appropriate.

So there's no way I can say it was bad, but it's just, it's, it's a generally well shot, well filmed, well, like, good music. The, the sound, sound design was really good. The stunt's really good. But it's like, like a 7 out of 10.

Like nothing of note, but none of it was bad in any way, shape or form.

Paula: 00:58:10

Yeah, Yeah, I, I would agree. And I, I almost think that makes it even better because so often, I think in more modern movies it's always like, let's be crazy.

Seth: 00:58:21

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:58:21

Right.

Paula: 00:58:21

And they, they stuck really, to what they were doing, which is, we're just trying to make a family movie. We're trying to keep it simple.

Seth: 00:58:27

Yeah.

Paula: 00:58:27

To group of kids playing baseball. We don't need to do anything crazy.

Seth: 00:58:30

Yeah.

Paula: 00:58:31

So the lack of craziness, I think, just made the story all the more believable.

Seth: 00:58:36

Agreed. And like I said, it all, it all fit. Like, none of it. Nothing took me out of it. But also, none of it was just like, even.

And I'm not even saying like, crazy shots, but they were just. Every now and then someone. And we'll talk about this next week with, with do the Right Thing.

But every now and then, there's just a shot that is so, to your brain, simple.

But then you start picking through it and you're like, oh, there's so much that was like so much thought thought that was put into what's on screen and how the camera is. Is. Is. Is framed up. But I never really got a ton of that from this. The world felt lived in. The world felt like a real place.

But, yeah, there was nothing that ever made me go, oh, that was really creative.

Kyle: 00:59:16

Yeah, yeah. Oh, I agree. Yeah. And I think. I think it's a very simple film. There's not a lot of innovation happen. But I did think this too.

The reason I give it a pretty solid s' mores is because even though it's funny, baseball is, like, the feature of this movie.

Seth: 00:59:30

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:59:30

In a lot of ways. But I don't necessarily think of it as a baseball movie.

Seth: 00:59:33

Yeah.

Kyle: 00:59:34

Which is funny because it's about this group and the friendships. But it does. It is filmed in the spirit of older baseball films.

So when I watch it, Field of Dreams, the Natural, like, I'm actually resonating with those films as I'm watching it. And those are pretty straight on films. Like.

Like the Miracles are happening in the dynamics of the characters and the heroic arcs and not necessarily in the cinematography or the filming. Although the Natural does have a couple of legendary, you know, Mr. Dash, Caleb Deschanel's cinematography.

But that being said, I think it is filmed in the spirit of a traditional baseball movie in a lot of ways. So I think it's pretty straightforward and simple in that way. And I think. I think they execute pretty well. So like you said.

Yeah, there was an innovation. It wasn't like, whoa. But, you know, for the story they were telling.

Seth: 01:00:15

Yeah, it worked. Yeah.

Kyle: 01:00:17

So.

Paula: 01:00:18

And I wanted to say, too. Oh, shoot, Never mind. I just forgot.

Seth: 01:00:23

Oh, it's all good that you hate it. Never mind. It's all. It's all scabs.

Kyle: 01:00:31

Well, if it comes back to you, let me know. Okay, we'll get it in there. Five to zero. And now we're into our homemade categories here. I called this one kidding around.

We talk a lot about kid actors here. We've covered a few. We've got Danny Lloyd and the Shining. We all know about Stranger Things, which we haven't covered.

But that's kind of the new standard. Right? How do we feel about. This is just like kids and movies.

Seth: 01:00:54

Like, yeah, this is. This top 10 kid performances. Like. Like I've said many times today, like, none of it felt crazy. Over the top.

None of the kids felt like they were trying too hard. And obviously, a lot of that speaks to the director because you can have the greatest child actor ever, but if you have a terrible director, it just.

It's never gonna work. But, like, the fact that they were able to work together so well and bring such honest, genuine performances from every one of those kids, this.

Yeah, this absolutely needs to go down in one of the best child acting performances ever.

Kyle: 01:01:33

Cool.

Paula: 01:01:34

I would say it's like a classic. It. To me, it's like. It's not like a movie that I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm obsessed with this movie.

Seth: 01:01:41

Yeah.

Paula: 01:01:42

But you turn it on, you're like, yeah, it's just a good, solid movie. You can show it to anyone. It really reminds me of how I felt when I watched the bears for the first time.

Like, the movie, I think it's called the Bear. It's the little kid and then the drunk coach. Bad News Bears.

Kyle: 01:02:00

Oh, yeah.

Seth: 01:02:02

I haven't seen it, but I've heard of it.

Paula: 01:02:03

Yeah, okay. Like, this reminds me so much of that movie where it's just like. Like, it's just great.

Seth: 01:02:09

Kids.

Paula: 01:02:09

I mean, I guess. I don't know. I don't know if you consider the Backing Spirits a kids movie is pretty crass. But, yeah, to my dad, it was a kids movie. We liked it.

We watched it.

Kyle: 01:02:18

Like, what was a kid's movie before the Industrial Revolution? You know, it's like, ah, the kid got his hand cut off by the canning machine. Don't pay him. He's worthless to us now.

Pre Industrial Revolution jokes always kill. I have 12 minutes of material on that. I'm just kidding. I don't actually. I did have a pre Industrial Revolution bit, though, years ago.

I'm not going to talk about it now. I don't know. It was one of those that I held on to.

Seth: 01:02:47

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:02:47

You know, and no one liked it but me. You ever have those where I like this bit but no one laughs?

Paula: 01:02:52

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:02:53

Yeah.

Seth: 01:02:53

I kind of tend to get rid of those.

Kyle: 01:02:55

No, see, I love those. That's my whole.

Paula: 01:02:56

I got quite a few.

Kyle: 01:02:58

Yeah, it's like half my set. It's like, this one's for me, y'. All.

Seth: 01:03:02

This entire set is just for me. I don't care about you. You guys. I was this close yesterday to just looking at everyone and being like, y', all, I'm just here for the dogs.

This is not for you guys. So I'm just going to perform the dogs and then just be like, arf, arf, arf, arf, arf, arf.

Kyle: 01:03:16

How about them bones?

Paula: 01:03:17

Yeah. Yeah, agreed.

Kyle: 01:03:19

Yeah. I think I get easily irritated by bad kid acting.

Seth: 01:03:24

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:03:24

Like any movie. Like, it's. That's why I always. I hate. I know this is a repeat thing I say, but that's why I'm so blown away by Stranger Things.

Like, I do not like that show.

Seth: 01:03:32

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:03:33

But this, the kids are so good. Like, literally every single one of them can act their asses off.

Seth: 01:03:38

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:03:38

And now they're all, like, getting big roles.

Seth: 01:03:40

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:03:40

Like, what's the redhead's name? She was in the Whale with Brendan Fraser. Max. She plays Max in the show.

Seth: 01:03:46

Sadie Sink.

Kyle: 01:03:47

Yeah. She's getting. She's. She's getting booked everywhere. Like, these kids are. They're legitimate.

Seth: 01:03:51

I think she's going to be in the next Spider man movie.

Kyle: 01:03:53

Oh, really?

Seth: 01:03:53

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:03:54

I just. I just hope they stave off the cocaine.

Seth: 01:03:57

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:03:57

Seriously, like Barrymore.

Paula: 01:03:59

It is truly hard to like when you see really good kid movie, like, nowadays where you're like. Like, gosh, I almost don't want it. Like.

Kyle: 01:04:06

Yeah, you just.

Paula: 01:04:06

You just be like, it's such an inhospitable industry for kids. It's hard to like it.

Seth: 01:04:12

It seems to be getting better, though. Like, I. I think we've, like, you have. Timothy Chalamet seems to be a pretty freaking normal dude for how crazy his life has been.

Same with Tom Holland. Same with Zendaya. Like, they all seem to be handling fame really well.

Kyle: 01:04:26

Gosling's doing okay.

Seth: 01:04:28

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:04:28

He got a fight, but, you know. Yeah.

Paula: 01:04:31

Yeah, he's killing me.

Kyle: 01:04:32

He was a Disney. Disney child. But yeah, I get so easily irritated by them. And like, even like Haley Joe Osmond, like, I. People love the Sixth Sense.

I was just like, dude, I can't get over this kid's haircut.

Seth: 01:04:43

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:04:43

You know, he just had the worst haircut.

Seth: 01:04:46

I still haven't seen that. And I kind of feel like it's. It's not worth it at this point because I know the ending.

Kyle: 01:04:50

You would. I think you would have watched it then and been like everyone else and been like, whoa. Now you'd be like, I don't like the haircut.

Seth: 01:04:56

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:04:57

I don't like the pre Industrial Revolution haircut. Going back to the old trusty joke here. But yeah, I give it. I give it a one. And this is like a resounding, like, s', mores because I'm like, I just.

I can't believe even going to be. I'm almost 40 and this just blows my mind still. These kids. So every single one of them, not a single one of them drops the ball. The, ah. In the yard.

6, 0. And that's our last category. I couldn't even think of a good name for this one. How does it hold up? How about Steady She Blows?

How about that for a kids movie?

Paula: 01:05:32

Perfect.

Kyle: 01:05:33

Perfect. Steady she Blows.

Seth: 01:05:34

There we go.

Kyle: 01:05:34

How did this hold up, though? They're not just from a. From like, the fact that it was made, you know, so long ago, but also just some of the themes and things like that.

How do you think it holds up today?

Seth: 01:05:45

It is going to get a s' mores for me. It's going to be a squeak over.

Kyle: 01:05:48

Yeah.

Seth: 01:05:49

Because I think while the performance has held up and the general story holds up, there is.

There's some stuff in there that I can definitely see was either a product of its time being the 90s, or a product of the time it was trying to replicate being the 60s like you had. And again, it's like, it's hard to.

It's hard to filter it when you're an adult, but also remembering back when you were a kid and, and like, the whole thing with, with the Wendy situation, like, yeah, when you're a kid, it's funny because you have those moments where you're like, oh, my God, she's so pretty. If I had the chance there was she, I would make that happen. But then you look at it as an adult and you're like, oh, but that's just so wrong.

Kyle: 01:06:32

Yeah, we don't act on those instincts exactly.

Seth: 01:06:34

But it's. It's like, again, you don't want to excuse it as. As kids, but you also kind of understand. It's like, oh, yeah, you.

When you're 12 years old, you're not really told how to handle those. Those urges. So.

Kyle: 01:06:47

Right.

Seth: 01:06:48

It's. It's still generally, as a film holds up. But yeah, there's definitely some things. If I was going to.

If I had kids and I was going to show it to him, I would sit down first, be like, all right, here's the deal. We don't touch people without them saying you can. We don't kiss people without you saying they can. Like, yeah. So, yeah, it's still good.

But yeah, there's. There's some parental guidance needed before watching this movie.

Kyle: 01:07:10

True.

Paula: 01:07:11

I. I agree. I think it's.

I think it holds up great, especially nowadays because it's like, it seems like everyone's turning the corner and going, maybe Keeping kids inside and being with them all day and giving them 100 your attention. And when you can't give them attention, giving them a screen, maybe that's causing more issues than it's fixing.

Seth: 01:07:30

Yeah.

Paula: 01:07:31

So I think it actually is, like, in that sense, it's almost like a therapeutic. Where you're like, yes, I think we should go back to this type of situation where kids are just allowed to be kids.

And that one part I do agree would be like, okay, like, just. That's not actually appropriate. That's for a joke that's not real. Or you shouldn't actually do that.

But with how insane all of the content is nowadays and how hard it is to find a movie that would be similar, everything is so inappropriate that I think if I were to show my kids a movie that would be like, okay, that's totally fine.

Kyle: 01:08:08

Yeah, totally. Yeah. So you go, s'? Mores.

Paula: 01:08:11

Yeah. Yeah.

Kyle: 01:08:12

Cool. Yeah, I'm gonna go, yeah. Kind of a squeak above, I think. Yeah.

I think it's interesting how that did stick out to me this time, the Winnie Peppercorn thing, like, not even, like, with society's wraparound. And I just think it's super awkward.

Seth: 01:08:25

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:08:25

I just like, oh, that's weird.

Seth: 01:08:27

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:08:27

And even though it's engineered in a creative way where he pretends to drown, it's like, oh, that's romantic. But it's like, no, it's weird.

Paula: 01:08:34

And.

Seth: 01:08:34

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:08:35

And it's kind of funny that it made it. It's kind of funny that originally this movie had it 8 to 10 year olds. And that was in the script. It's like, all right.

Seth: 01:08:41

But it's like, again, I. I do remember being that age and I do remember having those kinds of fantasies or like, oh, I'll. I'll do this and then this will happen, and then I can make this happen. Like, yeah, it. It makes sense.

But there's also the ethical thing for me is as a director where I'm like, yeah, but do I really want to put that on film? Yeah, it's a little different if you're writing a book because you're not subjecting actual people to perform these things.

Kyle: 01:09:09

Yeah, Right.

Seth: 01:09:09

So it's like, yeah, it's same as you. A little squeak over. Just because it is. It's. It's a little weird.

Kyle: 01:09:14

Yeah.

Paula: 01:09:15

Yeah. I think that after watching, like, Quiet on Set and re. Watching Nickelodeon stuff, I think I've been so trauma. Traumatized.

Like, not actually big T traumatized, but you're just like, oh, my gosh, that's disgusting. That's actually predatory. Who would make these children do that?

Seth: 01:09:32

Yeah.

Paula: 01:09:32

So then something like that feels like significantly less do, like, problematic, even though it still is. Yeah, but really, you have. You guys are very right where it's like, that's still insane.

Seth: 01:09:43

Yeah.

Paula: 01:09:44

To, like, put a little girl in that situation.

Kyle: 01:09:47

Yeah.

Paula: 01:09:48

So.

Seth: 01:09:48

Well, that's the thing. I don't remember how. I don't know how old the actress was who played Wendy Peppercorn at the time, but my concern was, like, is she like.

Because she kind of looks like she's at least 18, and he's clearly 10.

Paula: 01:10:02

Or 12, so that would be so much worse.

Seth: 01:10:04

Yeah. That's where I'm like, that. I get. I get the story. I get the. The where it's coming from.

But yeah, just ethically putting physical humans on camera in that situation. I think.

I think if the situation had played out without the shots of her giving him mouth to mouth but cut away like it did in the second half of that moment, it. It could be handled perfectly fine. But yeah, there was just a couple moments where it's like, did we need to do this explicitly? Like, I know.

Don't know.

Paula: 01:10:34

I actually completely agree with you on that.

Kyle: 01:10:36

She would have been 19 in the movie.

Seth: 01:10:37

Okay.

Kyle: 01:10:38

She was born in seven. As an actress. She was born in 74. The movie came out in 93.

Seth: 01:10:42

So, yeah, it's like, again, I. I understand and I think it fit the story well, and I think it does genuinely make sense as. As a person who's been a young boy in. In a. You know, who. Who wished a situation like that could have happened where you get the older girl.

But yeah, it's still just a little weird that that happened on a. On a set.

Paula: 01:11:00

Right. It seems like you should just walk away saying. Or if you're gonna explain something to the kids, like, this is not real. Like, don't.

This is not a real thing that you should do. This is like a. A joke. And I guess you could say it's not funny, but it's only funny if it doesn't actually happen.

Seth: 01:11:18

Yeah. And that's where I'm like, you could have changed the angles.

Like, again, they did in the second half of the scene when she's giving him mouth to mouth, where you. You see her go down, but then it cuts away right at the second.

It's like, yeah, there are ways it could have been done better and kept the same spirit of the moment.

Kyle: 01:11:34

Yeah.

Paula: 01:11:34

Yeah. Totally agree.

Kyle: 01:11:36

Seven to zero.

Seth: 01:11:37

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:11:37

Knocked it out of the movie.

Paula: 01:11:39

I mean, it's a sandlot. Yeah. I don't think anyone was about to, like, rip it apart.

Kyle: 01:11:42

Yeah. Right. I wanted to.

Seth: 01:11:43

I'll be real. Yeah. I. I was very prepared to go into this and. And see a decent movie that people just have a massive nostalgia filter for.

But, no, I think genuinely, it holds up really well.

Kyle: 01:11:54

Timeless performances. Good job. And, yeah, you got shows coming up.

Paula: 01:11:59

Yeah. So, okay, my next show will be August 2nd. Me and John run a monthly show at the Brooklyn bowl in Nashville.

It's called Up Top Comedies on the Rooftop. The next one's August 2nd, and there's a September date that I don't know, but if you follow me on Instagram at Paula Comedy, you'll find out.

Kyle: 01:12:19

Boom. Great show.

Paula: 01:12:21

Thank you.

Seth: 01:12:22

I'll be doing a guest spot on that show.

Paula: 01:12:23

Yeah.

Seth: 01:12:25

So for some of you, this. This might. This episode might come out a couple days later, but keep coming back. Look at the. Look at her socials.

Because, yeah, it's a monthly show, and it's a great show.

Kyle: 01:12:33

And just know if you missed it, it was funny.

Seth: 01:12:35

Yeah.

Kyle: 01:12:36

Thank you all for hanging out.

Seth: 01:12:37

Always Crush.

Kyle: 01:12:38

Thank you all for hanging out with us. I'm Kyle.

Seth: 01:12:40

I'm Seth.

Paula: 01:12:40

I'm Paula.

Kyle: 01:12:41

Love y'. All.

Paula: 01:12:43

Movie wars.