Mr. Smith Goes To Washington, the greatest political drama EVER? W/ Nick Bush
The oldest movie we’ve ever covered... and somehow, still one of the most relevant.
We’re back with returning guest and comedian Nick Bush to unpack Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, a film that’s somehow more politically sharp in 2024 than it was in 1939. From attempted censorship by real U.S. Senators to Jimmy Stewart’s dangerous commitment to method acting, this episode is a wild ride through old Hollywood and modern-day political déjà vu.
We talk about:
- How lawmakers tried to bury the film before release
- Jimmy Stewart’s raw, wounded performance (yes, he had his throat chemically scorched on set)
- Why Gene Arthur’s drunken bar scene might be one of the best-acted scenes ever
- Whether this film could (or should) be remade — and who could possibly pull it off
- Plus: Boy Rangers, whitewashed Senate floors, and what Mr. Smith Does D.C. would look like
This one is equal parts reverence and ridiculousness. Let’s filibuster.
⏱️ Time Markers
00:00 – Intro and Nick is back!
01:00 – Why we picked Mr. Smith and its place in patriotic cinema
02:00 – The wild political backlash: senators tried to suppress the movie
04:00 – Jimmy Stewart’s “aw shucks” performance that turns into something devastating
06:30 – Is Tom Hanks our modern-day Jimmy Stewart?
09:00 – Gene Arthur: the underrated MVP of the movie
10:00 – The bar scene: acting masterclass or just fun to film?
12:00 – Are the Boy Rangers… kind of weird in hindsight?
13:00 – That moment they try to kill kids and everyone shrugs
14:00 – The child actors are… actually great?
16:00 – “Leave your rubbers at the door”: what the hell does that mean?
18:00 – Should this movie be remade? (with Pedro Pascal? Dennis from Always Sunny?)
20:00 – The shockingly white Senate and the need for diversity in remakes
22:00 – Filming locations: real D.C. vs studio sets
23:00 – Stewart’s insane method acting involving mercury dichloride
26:00 – Final thoughts, Boy Ranger jokes, and wrap-up
📌 Takeaways
- Mr. Smith Goes to Washington was nearly canceled by Congress.
- Jimmy Stewart had his throat chemically burned to sound filibuster-exhausted.
- The film's themes of corruption, media manipulation, and lost innocence still sting today.
- The cast, especially Gene Arthur and the child actors, still feel modern and alive.
- It’s an iconic film that’s hilarious, frustrating, moving—and deeply American.
Transcript
Foreign.
Kyle:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Movie wars podcast. Nick is back, baby. Hey.
Seth:And I'm Seth and that's Kyle.
Kyle:Yes. Doing it backwards this time. Going to Washington here. Mr. Smith goes to Washington. The oldest movie we've ever covered.
And I was so glad you suggested it because we really haven't gone to the classics.
Seth:Yeah, well, I was, I was looking up because like, like we've been saying, we're kind of trying to hit some themes every month, be them subtly or like in your face like we're doing with America in July.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:And when I looked up the top patriotic movies ever made about America, this was, I think it was like number two or three.
Kyle:Well, it's the number one political drama of all time.
Seth:Yeah. And I totally forgotten about it. I had never seen it, but I was aware of its existence and I was like, you know what?
nating because it came out in:So we'll rumblings if the war hadn't started by the time this came out, the rumblings were happening like they were right on the precipice of World War II happening. But the US wouldn't join for another three years.
So it's like we still have this pre US involvement in World War II kind of commentary on the American government. And I cannot tell you how much it infuriated me throughout the whole movie, how still politically relevant it is today.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Like just it. It's like nothing's changed.
Kyle:Yeah. Especially some of the background. I couldn't believe some of this.
So there were, there were lawmakers, there were senators trying to get this movie to stop on both sides of the aisle. Yeah.
Democrat Alvin W. Barkley, who would become vice president eventually lambasted the film as silly and stupid, accusing it of making the Senate look like, quote unquote, a bunch of crooks and then compose, making them look like, okay, okay. But yeah, there was a Jim Taylor also said, or he said that the Jim Taylor character was a grotesque distortion. And so they were.
So the government was working with competitive movie studios to buy up the property and bury it. So to buy it and not release it. Fascinating.
So I couldn't believe some of this because, like, not only did it watching it feel relevant, but this back end shit felt really relevant.
Seth:Nothing has changed.
Nick:I did not know about them trying to stop it being made like that. You know, it'd be like, okay, it'd be like if they were gonna make a movie about Me being a liar.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:And then I'm doing. Exactly. In the film.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:What they're accusing me of.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:I'm doing in real life what they accused me of in the film.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:I mean, I don't know. That's. I did not.
Seth:That's crazy.
Nick:Yeah.
Kyle:Yeah. And to think their egos were in this. This. This era.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:I mean, they have nothing else to do. I mean, there's no. Barely. I mean, not even TV yet. Right. I mean, we got radio.
Seth:Radio, but no. No TV in any widespread circumstance.
Kyle:No iPhone. So they're pissed. They're. This was their focus. I'm gonna govern and keep you from making me look bad. But, you know, I.
This movie was kind of an onion that peeled itself over time. At first, I was a little put off, and I always have been by Jimmy Stewart's, you know. You know, the. The. I call it the Ashoks.
Seth:Yeah. Yeah.
Kyle:Thing. You know what I mean?
Seth:Hi, everybody. I'm Jimmy Stewart.
Kyle:Yeah. It's always. But this works itself into a very powerful, climactic performance. What do you think?
Nick:Yeah, Yeah. I mean, he's sitting there, tie, disheveled, you know, hair, and he's. And he's giving the speech. You're just. You're. You're like, all right, I'm in.
Yeah, I'm in now because. Because I do feel like the aw, shucks thing is kind of disingenuous a lot of times.
Kyle:Right.
Nick:And then, you know, you watch it, even on screen, years later, it might even seem a little more so.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:With all the distance, but it does work.
Seth:Yeah. He's. I. I always forget how genuinely good of an actor Jimmy Stewart was, But then you.
e most prolific directors pre:Even with his kind of strange demeanor, even by the standards of the day, you just can't argue with the fact that he is such a prolific actor.
Kyle:Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And he was young here. He. He was on the ascent. So.
Seth:Yeah. Was this. Was this before or after It's a Wonderful Life?
Kyle:Before, I'm pretty sure.
Seth:Okay. Because Frank Capra directed that one as well.
Kyle:So.
Seth:Yeah. I was looking through his filmography, and I was like, oh, wow, he directed so many movies.
Kyle:Yeah. Let me double check that.
Nick:Well, I remember I took a Film and lit class in. In undergrad, and we. We watched Vertigo.
Seth:Oh, yeah.
Nick:Where, you know, Jimmy Stewart's a bad guy in that Alfred Hitchcock movie. And it was. It was good to see him as a bad guy.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:And then I feel like we can. There's a lot of parallels between Tom Hanks and. And Jimmy Stewart, and I'm trying to think, like, we don't really get Tom Hanks as a bad guy.
I think maybe he did a movie.
Kyle:Kind of recently, but never really a bad guy, though. I don't think. I can't think of one. Can.
Seth:Can you either? Damn.
Kyle:Yeah. Now you've racked my brain, dude. Let's see.
Nick:I mean, did he. I mean, it's hard to be like, hey, you know, Tom Haynes. There's some things you didn't do right in your movie career. But did he miss it?
Seth:He was a bad guy in Elvis. He was his manager and everyone.
Kyle:And Road to Prediction.
Seth:Strangest.
Nick:Okay, yeah.
Kyle:Road to Perdition. I forgot about that one. He's. Even though he's the. The main character, he is a bad guy in the Road to Perdition, I guess.
And Lady Killers, which is a Coen Brothers movie. I don't know why I forgot, because that's a slapstick comedy movie. So. Yeah, I don't think of that one. But, yeah, he is the bad bad guy in that.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:But you're right. I think 97 of the time. Good guy.
Nick:Yeah, yeah.
Seth:Not just the good guy. The hero.
Kyle:The hero.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Did anyone think Jimmy Stewart looked a little bit like Rob McEnany from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?
Kyle:He does have that vibe.
Seth:It's funny because I looked it up. They're actually. They're. They're both from Pennsylvania, and so I wonder if it's just like this Pennsylvania vibe that they. That they throw off.
Kyle:Yeah. Pa. Amish country Shout out.
Seth:Yeah. A little bit of Irish, like. Yeah.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:I don't know. That was the whole time. My roommate and I were watching it together the whole time. We're just like, he looks so much like him.
But also kind of has the demeanor of. I don't want to. I don't want to say like Timothy Chalamet, but. But kind of the demeanor of some of the younger actors that we have today.
Kyle:Yeah. Which is kind of a thing right now. Jeremy Millen White.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Chalamet. They all have a weird. It's like a. Very popular. And they're casting for this. The subdued but still masculine. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
Nick:Yeah. I'VE noticed it as a trend. I don't know. I mean. Yeah, like, I know who like, you know, Chalamet is and Shia LaBeouf. That's a guy.
Seth:Oh yeah. Love Shia LaBeouf.
Nick:I was half kitten about him, but yeah.
Seth:Yes. His. Say what you will about him as a person. His filmography is insane.
Kyle:Oh, he's a great actor.
Nick:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kyle:And he's a friend of a friend and he's. He's.
Seth:Oh, nice.
Kyle:Yeah, he's intense about acting.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:So I mean, they did make that documentary that's coming out about his acting camp and apparently he was pretty sadistic. But I'm not going to shit on him.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Friend of a friend.
Seth:Like I said, say what you will about him as a person, he's an insanely good actor.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah.
Nick:I was just making. I was just doing a bit about how like a certain type of white actor. They're just all the same in my head.
I was not, I was not cheating on any one particular person.
Kyle:You want to finish the bit? Yeah, let's go. Who, what other actors?
Seth:Leo, who else is the same mc?
Kyle:Some Pedro Pascal who is not white but plays white characters.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Like Joel. Right.
Nick:I'm looking at your Lord of the Ring, folks and I'm like, I. I can't think of this guy's name.
Seth:I know.
Kyle:You know, this is a weird thing I have with this. Every time I go back to the. Well with these classics, I end up ranking the. The main female actor actress is one of my favorites.
Seth:Yeah. Like she was so good in this.
Kyle:Gene. Gene Arthur. Man, what a legend. Like I did this like Taxi Driver is my second favorite movie of all time. Like Cybil Shepard. Like it's weird.
I love new actresses, but for some reason like the comedian.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Thing. Which Sybil Shepherd's not a comedian, but Gene Arthur was technically a comedian.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:And an actress. And it's funny. The farther back you go, like they're just like some beloved female performances in black and white film.
Seth:Absolutely. The whole time that was something I was shocked about was how well the humor holds up in this movie.
Cuz so many times you'll watch old movies and the humor is like. I can see how that would have been funny at the time. But it's. It's like this.
I was laughing out loud multiple times throughout this movie cuz it still was funny.
Kyle:A lot of who's on first Type.
Seth:Yeah, yeah.
Nick:I felt like, like that at the right moments to sprinkled in.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:Works.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah.
Seth:Yeah, that whole scene where her and the reporter are just hammered off their ass and are talking about getting married, like in the bar. That is one of the best acted scenes I've seen ever. Yeah, just in all the film. That was so well done.
Nick:Yeah. I felt like, you know, drunk at the bar. See, it just seems like if I were an actor, it would just be fun to do.
Seth:Oh, yeah.
Nick:You know, you're just like, oh, look, my character gets to do what? Okay, cool.
Seth:You know, I'd probably still need to, like, take at least one shot just to kind of get loose enough, but I need to get drunk to do it.
Nick:Yeah.
Seth:Be so much fun.
Nick:Oh, yeah, you couldn't.
Seth:They used to.
Nick:Yeah. Then they learn quickly.
Seth:Like, that's.
Kyle:Was anyone else oddly uncomfortable with the. The constant reference to the Boy Rangers? I don't know why, but I just, at a certain point, his obsession with these Boy Rangers.
Seth:Ah, he's innocent enough. Like, it's Jimmy Stewart.
Kyle:He.
Seth:He's one of the few good ones we still have from back then.
Nick:Yeah, I know what you mean, though.
Kyle:It's just he loves these Boy Rangers.
Seth:Kevin Spacey kept talking about Boy Rangers. Yes, that would be uncomfortable.
Nick:Well, no, it's just. It's hard not to filter things through modern lens.
Seth:And you're just like, dog, we live in a world where Diddy happened, so it's. Yeah, it's been tainted.
Kyle:Well, according to the jury, only two counts of the Diddy happen, bro.
Seth:Look, sex trafficking and racketeering are some very particular legal charges. He still did a lot of bad.
Kyle:Yeah. Did you see the, the fans outside spraying baby oil on each other or celebrating? That was.
Nick:That was a, a, A comedian, right? That was a, like a, an influencer being funny.
Kyle:Was it?
Nick:Yeah.
Kyle:Yeah. Okay.
Nick:Cuz that when I first heard about it, I was like, I mean this, for God's sake. But yeah, knowing that someone did it for comedic purposes.
Kyle:Yeah, that makes more sense.
Nick:I'm like, I have more hope for the world.
Kyle:Yeah. Because there's a moment there where it's not an influence. You're like, these are our neighbors. This is. We share the republic. These are. We pay that.
Yeah.
Seth:Was anyone else uncomfortable by how chill everyone seemed to be about the attempted murder on children?
Kyle:Yes. Subtly ramming them off the road.
Seth:The fact that the mom literally is just like, you got to tell them to stop. They're going after the kids. But that's all. She's not like, they're murdering children. Was so nonchalant about it all.
Nick:Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think we forget, like, how, like, close we were. Like, how close we are to the distant past.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:We think we've been living in, like, a modern society for that movie is.
Seth:Only 86 thousands of years.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah. It's literally like 12 years.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick: I mean,: Seth:Yeah, Yeah.
Nick:I mean, I think people disappeared a lot more often than we realize.
Seth:I mean, child labor had only recently become taboo.
Kyle: Like, it's like, what,: Seth:I will say these. These are some of the best child actors I've ever seen in a movie.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:They were shockingly fantastic. Like that whole SC where the kid's trying to read and is clearly, like, not remembering the bigger words.
And finally it's just like, ah, heck, it's a briefcase, Jim.
Kyle:Yeah. In the dinner scene with the. With the guy who's selecting who's trying, he selects Smith.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:And this kid, all the kids are, like, chiming in.
Seth:They were so good.
Nick:I remember reading about, like, the. The type of good child actors, because there's, like, specific types. There's. There's like, the.
The Macaulay Culkin type who was, like, really good at playing a kid.
Seth:Yeah. Really expressive. Big. Yeah.
Nick:But then there's the Haley Joel Osman who's like, man, he seems older.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:And he really is. And then I can't remember the other two, but I just remember, like, the different ways kid actors can be good.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:Kid actors that, you know.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:And then a 90s sitcom, it was like the only requirement was having a bowl cut.
Seth:Yeah. Thanks to this hair.
Nick:Shout out to Jonathan Taylor Thomas.
Kyle:Y would like to audition for the role. He's like, he doesn't have a bowl cut, so get the out.
Seth:Next.
Kyle:Maybe you're a country bumpkin who has opportunity to legislate amongst the crooks and the criminals. And you are innocent as I'll get out.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:The one thing you should legislate is Movie Wars. Always mandatory. I don't care who you are, where you're from. If you don't have an iPhone, figure it out. Listen to Movie Wars.
According to this new policy, as mandated by your country bumpkin representative, phone your senators, write your congressman. Movie wars.
Seth:Hell. Hit up your local billionaire and make them pay the government to do it.
Kyle:Yeah. Yeah. Or get the boy Rangers to do it.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Get the boy Rangers. Arm them with Movie Wars. Send them into the depths of the caves and the woods. Whatever the. The Boy Scouts do, they yearn for the mines, they yearn.
They yearn. Yeah. They yearn, they yield and they yearn. Movie wars. Share it like the Boy Rangers do. Love you.
Nick:The question, do the Boy Scouts exist still?
Kyle:They don't exist.
Seth:Yeah. Yeah, they do. Okay.
Kyle:Yeah. But now it's fentanyl, so they. They don't sell cookies. Wait, no. It's the girls.
Seth:Popcorn.
Kyle:They sell popcorn. And fentanyl. That's not salt. Ladies and gentlemen, a sea, a grain, a granule will kill you. So, Boy Rangers. I wasn't. Were you a Boy Scout?
Nick:No.
Kyle:No. Were you?
Seth:No, no.
Kyle:Same. It seems like your parents would have dug that.
Seth:They wanted to be, and they wouldn't do it. And then, lo and behold, my little brother gets to be a Boy Scout. And I was like, oh, thanks, guys. Appreciate that.
Kyle:Come on, parents.
Seth:I think in an almost record amount of time, he went from joining the Boy Scouts to being an Eagle Scout.
Kyle:Oh, a record.
Seth:Like, 18 months.
Kyle:So he was, like, starting fires and, like, eating and.
Seth:Yeah, but, like, his last two years of high school.
Kyle:That's crazy.
Seth:Yeah. 18 months. He went from joining the Boy Scouts to getting his Eagle Scout certification.
Kyle:What does he do now?
Seth:Random stuff. He's so much younger than me, so he's still, like, taking college classes and all that good stuff, so it didn't.
Kyle:Really pan out for him.
Seth:I mean, it will.
Kyle:You're a loser. What's his name?
Seth:No.
Kyle:No. You're not gonna say his name. No, he's not a loser.
Seth:No, he's not.
Kyle:You're not a loser. I was. I was defending you. I was defending your honor.
Seth:No, Peyton's dope.
Kyle:Okay, Peyton, you're dope. But you did get to do Eagle.
Seth:You did.
Kyle:I almost called it Eagle Wars, Eagle Scouts, and Seth didn't. So for that, you are losing everything else. You sound cool, but for that reason, you are out. Yeah.
Seth:Yeah. Love you, Peyton.
Nick:I wish you'd been like, hey, what does he do? And Seth would have been like, he's a Delta Force operator.
Kyle:I know. I was waiting for a really good answer.
Nick:Yeah. Like, Lee's, like, boy Scout, Eagle Scout.
Seth:I think we finally convinced him not to go through with filmmaking because we're all just like, bro, one of us needs to make money.
Kyle:Yeah. He's the lead. The lead at the quantum physics department at Johns Hopkins.
Seth:He is mit.
Kyle:Yeah, he is. The questions, the questions.
Nick:The question.
Kyle:How would this movie. Yeah, baby. How would this movie have been different? If it was called Mr. Smith Does D.C.
Seth:I would have been down with it. There's Probably a version of it that exists with that name.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Rule 34.
Nick:I've never been afraid of an NC17 rating.
Seth:Debbie does Dallas is his favorite movie.
Kyle:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It was kind of the Mr. Smith goes to Washington, and then Mr. Smith does D.C. yeah. Got to get the copy machine in there.
Seth:I mean, it was. It was a time when a title like that was still new. Like, people weren't. That wasn't a cliche yet. So. Yeah.
Kyle:And you look at all the movie post posters. I don't know if you did this when you were, like, researching it, but all the movie posters from this era look the same.
Like the big bubble text and the. You know, they all have the same border as. Like, there was one company that made movie posters back then, you know.
Seth:Yeah. There was only, like, three companies ever, so at that point in time, so.
Kyle:So that's amazing.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Did. Does anyone know what this actually means? You got to check your ideals at the door. Like your rubbers. That, quote, caught me off guard.
Seth: hat. What were rubbers in the: Kyle:I'm guessing boots of some kind.
Seth:Maybe.
Nick:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Seth: But it is also rubbers in the: Nick:It's believable that they slipped it in too. Right?
Kyle:Yeah. Little sexual subliminal. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if it. If it's Mr. Smith does DC then it's definitely condoms. Leave your condoms outside of the Senate door.
Seth:Yeah, I don't know. I'm curious now. I'm gonna find out what your country.
Nick:Can do for you, boy, you can do with them today.
Kyle:Or who you can do for your country. Oh, man.
Nick:Sexual.
Seth:According to the. The Google AI, the phrase leave your rubbers at the door has two main meetings. One, removing footwear. Okay, okay. That's the literal one.
And figuratively dispensing with some. With something or intentionally not allowing something to influence you.
Kyle:Oh, okay. Leave your rubbers at the door.
Nick:Not the sexual.
Seth:It was a layered thing. Okay, interesting.
Kyle:So for all your lady interest in your loved ones, from now on, I'm asking you. I'm mandating this. I'm. As a movie worse representative, no matter who it is, your girlfriend, your wife, whatever.
Did you leave your rubbers out the door and just leave it there? Don't explain. Just don't elaborate.
Seth:Apparently the. The rubbers specifically would refer to galoshes or overshoes because they would be the ones that are wet and dirty.
Kyle:I hate it when my overshoes get wet and dirty. My under Shoes, though.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Spic and span. Clean. Nice and clean. Yeah. Last.
Seth:We just shoe him like a horse.
Kyle:That's right, baby. Last question. And I'm thinking about just asking this question on every movie now. Should this just be me? Remade with Pedro Pascal.
I feel like you could add that to every movie now.
Seth:I want to see it remade with. So I said, he looks like Rob McEnany from It's Always Sunny. I want to see it remade with the guy who plays Dennis from It's Always Sunny.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:How great would he be?
Kyle:Yeah, that would be good.
Seth:The speeches he would give would be so good. The whole filibuster section of the movie would be hilarious if he did it.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:I don't know what you. You'd have to change the soundtrack, though, right? Yeah.
Seth:We'll get John Williams, Hans Zimmer.
Nick:Yeah.
Seth:He says, I want to build a boys camp.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:I feel like the comedy's a lot darker, too. You get.
Kyle:Oh, yeah.
Seth:Oh, yeah.
Nick:You get those. Philadelphia. The. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kyle:Well, hopefully the diversity would be here because that. That was one of the. Obviously, it's the time, but there is not a one person of color in this movie. No, they are not any other. They really.
I don't remember seeing one.
Seth:Not speaking roles. They're all in the service roles.
Kyle:Oh, yeah.
Seth:They're all the pages walking around people's luggage and the people standing at hotels being like, this is where you're supposed to go.
Kyle:I was like, my God, this is a white movie.
Seth:Yeah, it was. I looked at McKenna and I was like, this is very uncomfor.
Nick:Look at the Senate. You're just like, oh, wow, this is.
Seth:Lot of.
Nick:Lot of. Lot of white. A lot of dudes, too.
Kyle:Just a lot of white dudes.
Nick:Yeah.
Kyle:I don't know why I noticed that. I mean, I'm just like. Just sometimes you're like, geez, there's a lot of white people around. Yeah.
Nick:I mean, it just. It's like. Even if the movie's set in, like, you know, like, Omaha.
Seth:Right. Just. Just throw it.
Nick:Just throw in someone. Yeah.
Seth:Even if they're. Even if they're just light brown, like, growing a Mexican.
Nick:Racially ambiguous is fine, but, like. But D.C. yeah.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:DC, that's chocolate city. Gotta have a couple black folks. Seriously, I'm the Senate.
Kyle:I mean, the walls are white, the people are white, the paper's white. It's like, fuck.
Seth:It is crazy that this movie and Veep shared some of the same set pieces, because really. Well, they shot some of these things. Actually, in D.C. at these buildings.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Veep does as well, so.
Kyle:Yeah, that's great. Well, I do have rando about how they built the set, but that's crazy.
Seth:Yeah, I'm pretty sure the main.
Yeah, the main, like, floor of the Senate was a set, but, like, certain hallways, like, were either so perfectly redone that they're just exactly the same or. I guess. I bet. I bet you it would have been cheaper just to be like, yeah, we're going to go in here, this hallway for a day.
Kyle:Now I'm just imagining this movie being remade with the guy that did the score for the Snyder verse. What's his. What's his name?
Seth:Excel Junkie.
Kyle:Yeah, Excel Junkie. Just, like, send it.
Nick:You know, just.
Kyle:All right, Randos, man. Some good questions, man. This is a fun movie to talk about here.
ading freshman senator in the: Seth:Name.
Kyle: And this sounds like a very: Nick:And Shout Out. Shout Out. Warren G. Hardy. Yeah.
Seth:Oh, my God.
Kyle:Apparently faced fierce retaliation from public enemy or political enemies, so. And that's where screenwriter Lewis Foster drew the elements of the story.
Seth:Did he filibuster as well?
Kyle:I did not find the thing about the filibuster in there. No.
Seth:Okay.
Kyle:But maybe, yeah, maybe.
Seth: libuster, I think happened in: Kyle:There was one last, I think, three or four months ago, though.
Seth:Oh, really?
Kyle:I think Hakeem Jeffries had one.
Seth:I thought there was. There was like.
Kyle:Was that technically filibuster?
Seth: nna looked it up and she said: Kyle:Yep. Technically, they are. They have established that Hakeem Jeffries, it was a filibuster.
Seth:Oh, okay, cool.
Kyle:So, yeah, but you're right, there are all kinds of limitations and stuff.
Nick:But, yeah, because I assumed that it was just. If you just talk a long time, you're filibustering, but there are certain.
Seth:Not yielding. Whatever. I thought it was interesting that he. When he was like, last time I yielded, I basically just kicked out of this room.
So, no, I will not yield to anything other than questions.
Kyle:It's like Monopoly. It's like, did you pass Go. Okay, then you can talk.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:This is getting back to these boy rangers These Power Boy Rangers. So they actually. There was. Again.
Seth:Say that again. Yeah.
Kyle:These boys, the Boy Rangers. And you know, I. And also I had such a hard time watching this and not thinking about Dana Carvey's impersonation of Jimmy Stewart on snl.
He did the best and away at the Door and did one about his dying dog.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Dana Carvey is like. And I wait at the door and I wait and I wait. Shout out Dana Carvey. But they actually wanted to talk, use the Boy Scout name. But they didn't want.
They. I think they didn't want to face the political fallout of this movie, so they didn't allow their name to be used. So that's why they actually.
Seth:Batman.
Kyle:Makes sense. Went Boy Rangers. I can't say it enough. Boy Rangers. It was kind of funny when they were randomly just in the Senate chambers.
Seth:Yeah. We got in something I said, cuz in the next scene that they're in there, there's all those old veterans up there.
And I looked at McKenna, I was like, man, those boys grow up fast.
Kyle:Yeah, those Boy Rangers are now man Rangers.
Seth:I love the hat the nun was wearing. Yeah.
Nick:You know, Boy Rangers sounds like a name that they were like, oh, we can't use Boy Scouts.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:All right. And then they just came up with whatever the first thing was.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:But it also sounds like you really couldn't come up with anything better.
Seth:Yeah. Like, it's like you went to Dollar General to get your Boy Scout costume, but they don't have Boy Scouts. They have Boy Rangers.
Nick:Yeah. And you find out that that's as good as the Boy Scout costume.
Kyle:Yeah. I mean, is it a thing in the Senate always? I mean, I've never been to a Senate hearing, so.
I mean, is it just always coordinate, like say Anthony Kiedis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Would there just be a bunch of like shirtless women on people's shoulders up there? Or.
Seth:I mean. No, you could definitely go and view. Like, that is a designated viewing area. Like, I've been to the Senate floor.
Kyle:I feel like I need to pick a good one.
Seth:A good.
Kyle:Like a good one to go to. Like a good case. Yeah, like a good court hearing. Like a guy that, like, maybe keeps exposing himself.
Seth:Yeah, there you go.
Nick:You know, I mean, for like November around Survivor Series, I think that's.
Seth:But yeah, I mean, yeah, it was totally normal for just different groups of people to get to come in and watch the happenings go.
Kyle:And I wait at the door and I wait and I. Oh, sorry about that.
Seth:I Love when he's just standing there reading the Declaration of Independence, and then she gives him the Constitution and he's like, all right, we're just gonna go into this now.
Kyle:That's amazing. Yes. So going. Go ahead.
Nick:No, no, go ahead.
Kyle:Going back to the part about. So the Senate chamber was a set, and they actually. They built it almost to likeness.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Of the Senate chamber. So that's pretty cool.
Seth:I mean. Yeah. At that point, you can't. Especially if the government is protesting your movie. They're not going to let you shoot there.
Kyle:Yeah. And then they also. The microphones even were created to be operational as if it were the Senate chamber. So they weren't cinematic microphones.
They were actually like what you would say during a hearing. So they went all out.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:On the. On the realism of the set.
Seth:Hell, yeah.
Kyle:Hell, very impressive.
Seth:Back when people gave a. About sets. That's right, baby didn't just green screen everything.
Kyle:I know. Well, Nolan, this. This Odyssey movie is going to break the bank in terms of the real stuff. This. This Cyclops.
Seth:Yeah. It's also fully shot on IMAX film. It doesn't. It's not going to switch between different cameras.
Kyle:It's going to be wild.
Seth:So good.
Kyle:Last one, Jimmy Stewart, A little bit of early method acting here. He wanted to sound like he had been talking to. For 23 hours. So he actually went to a. What do they call them? A nose, throat and ear doctor.
Is that what they call them? Ntes.
Seth:Ear. Ear, nose and throat.
Kyle:Ear, nose and throat end. Yes, an ent. And had him, like, scrape his throat or do something to it to make it sound. And the doctor was with him on stage. He swabbed his throat.
The doctor. This sounds really dangerous. Don't do this. Don't do this at home. Boy Rangers. He. The doctor swabbed his throat with mercury dichloride.
Seth:Oh, my God.
Kyle:A harsh astringent to irritate his vocal cords. And the doctor even came to the set during the filibuster filming to reapply the treatment to keep his voice sounding hoarse.
Seth:Damn.
Kyle:I don't think that's a good idea.
Seth:The commitment from actors back in the day.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:Reminds me of that episode of Friends where Phoebe kept trying to get sick again so she could have a sexy voice.
Seth:Yes.
Kyle:Oh, that's one of the. That's like a Top 5 Friends episode.
Nick:Yeah.
Seth:The bar is pretty low on that, but yeah, it's. It's like. That's definitely one of the better ones.
Kyle:Yeah. And. And I just think it's funny how quick. I mean, we. Do we have versions of this today. But it's just funny how back in the day.
How quick they were just like. Like asbestos.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Like there was just no testing anything. It's like. Do you think that could fill the wall? What is it? I don't know. Just put it in there.
Seth:Does it work? Cool. Does it kill people? Who cares?
Kyle:Sure. We'll find out. So did Jimmy Stewart die of mercury related death? Do we know that?
Seth:I don't think so. He lived to be pretty old.
Nick:Yeah.
Kyle:Jimmy crack corn and I don't care. Are we. Shall we filibuster?
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Shall we protect the Boy Rangers?
Nick:Yeah.
Kyle:You want to protect them?
Seth:Shall we block a dam?
Nick:I. Yeah. I will protect the Boy Rangers at all costs.
Kyle:At all costs. Nick Bush is here to protect the Boy Rangers.
Nick:There's no way to not sound weird when you say that.
Kyle:That's what I'm saying. Just the phrase Boy Rangers is weird to me. Just Boy Rangers. How many times have I said it? We need a Boy Ranger counter.
Seth:Yeah, we should. Yeah. When you edit, just put up a ding every time you say it.
Kyle:I should. That will take a lot of time because I think I just said it for the 94th time. Let's war. Let's legislate. Top bill cast. Here we go. Scrolling.
That would be James Stewart, also known as Jimmy Stewart, Gene Arthur and Claude Rains. Claude Rains being Senator Joseph Payne.
Seth:Okay.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah. His.
Seth:Yeah, everyone was so good. Again. It's. It's very easy for a movie from this era to just feel wacky and cartoony. But this, the way they acted translated still today.
Like, yeah, Jimmy Stewart. Still Jimmy Stewart. You're never gonna get that part of him out of the movies that he does.
But he did bring such a fun kind of loss of innocence to the role. The whole scene where he's just running around punching people. That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen in all of cinema history.
Kyle:That was a little random.
Seth:That was so good though. Just like. I love how everyone's talking about like, he's like, oh, yeah, no, the swamp. Like, blah, blah, blah.
But no one gives a shit that he's just punching people. They're all just like, yeah, this is absolutely normal.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:But did we say what the yes and no's are?
Kyle:Oh, the yeses. Boy Rangers is positive. I forgot that I had done that. I'm regretting it now. Absolutely regretting that. Boy Rangers is. Yes.
Nick:Too late.
Kyle:Yeah, but you're here to Protect them. So it's okay, Ranger.
Seth:I barely know her. What's the negative?
Kyle:Honest, not stupid.
Seth:Okay.
Kyle:Which is one of my favorite quotes in the movies. He's honest, not stupid.
Seth:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boy Rangers, though. Yeah.
Nick:Honest, not stupid. That'd be a great comedy album title.
Seth:That would be.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah, that would be a good one.
Seth:That's for your next one.
Nick:That's.
Kyle:Oh, yeah, do it, buddy.
Nick:It should be my first one.
Kyle:I can't believe you don't have one by now. Let's go.
Nick:Hey, you're right. I got to step it up, baby. Yeah.
Seth:But, yeah, Boy Rangers. For me, that everyone did such a good job. That whole scene where she's drunk. Like I said.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Incredible acting.
Kyle:I love that.
Nick:I go Boy Rangers. Going back to the scene, him punching people.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick: It's almost like a: Seth:Yeah.
Nick:Like, traveled back in time with cocaine. Yeah. And said, hey, just do this one scene, and then that's it. Because it just.
Seth: vie without that scene in the: Kyle:I love that.
Nick:That's good.
Kyle:Yeah. Yeah. You know, I. I can't remember. I was listening to a Bill Maher podcast. I love his podcast, Club Random.
And he was talking about how he loves old movies. But he. He said, like, when you go watch old movies, you have to, like, kind of, like, change your mind.
Like, you have to put yourself into a different shoes because they are different. And sometimes when I watch these movies, I'm like, this movie is silly. As people just did silly. And one of them is running around.
Bunch of people like that, just running kids off the road. It's just silly.
Seth:Oh, yeah. It is funny, though, because what. What's fun about movies from that era is all of the old people.
Actors were all born in the: Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Like, it's. It's crazy that we today can look back and be like, this is what was the good humor of the day.
Kyle:These people think soap is the devil. They're just like, don't put that in my house. Them as bubbles. Yes. You gonna say something?
Nick:No. It was just funny.
Kyle:Like, it's true. It's true. It's like you. I. I always go back to your comment, but it blew my mind. When you're.
watch something before, like,: Seth:Yeah.
Nick:Yeah. My thing with Mad Men is, like, you know, they're drinking whiskey during the day.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:I'm just like, how does the next scene. Not everyone just passed out. Like, if I day drink at noon, I'm sitting down and, and sitting through a meeting.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:I'm gonna pass out.
Kyle:It's nap time.
Nick:Yeah.
Kyle:I, I go Boy Rangers here.
Seth:And I'm going to say, coming into this movie, I am shocked. After we discussed it, I'm not as shocked. But if you would ask me before we watch this movie, I would have thought you would have hated all of that.
Kyle:Really?
Seth:Yeah. Just knowing how you've gone in the.
Kyle:Past for the first five, ten minutes. I did.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:I, I, but then I reminded myself, thank. I heard that little Bill Maher thing, but it reminded me. I was like, you can't have the same expectations. It's a different time.
And so I recalibrated. And the. I'll say this, too. I think Stewart's performance warms up over time.
Seth:Oh, yeah.
Kyle:He really leans into the country bumpkin, y'.
Seth:All.
Kyle:You know, the Oshucks thing, it's real strong at first, but it blossoms into a really wonderful performance.
Seth:But I mean, that's definitely that, that, like, loss of innocence over the course of the movie. He's supposed to be the weird ideal, almost like, like, fresh out of college kind of guy who's, like, actually still hopeful about the world.
Kyle:Yeah. And it's a bit strong at the beginning.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:But it's, it's for a minor part and then, like, once it gets into the meat. I really think the best scenes in the movie are the interaction between him and Gene Arthur.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Those moments are beautiful. And I even love it when she's up there and she's, she's genuinely expressing care for him, trying to guide him.
Those moments are the beautiful moments. And I really think it ends up blossoming into a really amazing performance. So I give it a. It's a major boy.
And the guy that played Pain, Was his name Clay? Claude Rains? Is that what we said?
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:He was awesome.
Seth:Fantastic. He was, he's one of the guys I'm referring to. Like, I think at the time was old enough. He was probably in his 60s.
Like, was born in the: Kyle:Yep.
Seth:Like, like, it's just, it's so crazy.
Kyle:To me, I remember when we washed her hands with mud. It ruled. Soap is just. It's like a. It's like an iPhone accessory. They're like. They just want you to spend money. Soap. Soap is overrated.
Seth:It was. Soap was one of the big advertisers of the radio of the day.
Kyle:It was.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Wash your hands, listen to radio and your clothes brought to you by radio.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:One to zero. We are Boy Ranger out of our minds here. Supporting. I think I just said it for the 106th time. Edward Arnold. Guy Kibby as Governor Hopper.
I'm have to say the names here because no one's gonna know. Jim Taylor, played by Edward Arnold. Diz Moore was played by Thomas Mitchell. Chick McGann as Edging Palette.
Seth:I love these names.
Kyle:I do too. They're very much like of the time.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Like the initials H.B. warner. H.V. cattle born. Like, everyone's got init. Yeah. But anyway, you're not gonna know who they are anyway. This is a bunch of senators.
Seth:Yeah. I mean, yeah. Again, it's like in the moments where it was supposed to feel a little over the top, things felt over the top.
But when everything needed to get down and serious, like, people. People brought it back down to earth. Like it. Everyone gave such a solid, nuanced performance throughout the movie.
Like, yeah, it's a Boy Ranger for me.
Kyle:Love it. We got some boy thunder from above.
Nick:Oh, yeah. I hear it. I hear it coming.
Kyle:Yeah. What do you think?
Nick:Well, when you're saying the names, it. It. I couldn't help but think of like a old timey baseball team.
Kyle:Yes. I'm like, like.
Nick:Because, like, one of the names was Chick. And it's just like, that is a. Yeah. Like, there's no way that's not. That guy's not a first baseman somewhere.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Or at least played one in a movie. Right.
Nick:Right.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:Yeah. I mean, yeah. No notes on the, you know, on the acting performances.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah. Probably.
Nick: Yeah. You remake it in: Kyle:Yeah, Yeah. I had. One of my best bits is about my racist grandpa. He thinks the NFL is still a white person sport. He's still.
's thinking of the NFL in the:Jim Mcclanahan. Like, they're. They're playing football between their sessions or their. Their working sessions at the meat packing plant.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:That's the NFL.
Nick:He remembers Leatherheads smoking at halftime.
Seth:Yeah. Smoking dirt.
Kyle:All right, Dick, what are we gonna do next?
Seth:I do love that the kid is like, what's your name? And he's like, richard. He's like, all right, Dick.
Kyle:Yes. He instantly goes Dick. Quick to Dick.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:Oh, my gosh.
Kyle:So you boy rangers on supporting cast.
Nick:Boy rangers, Yeah.
Kyle:I do, too. You know, it's. It's very much of the time, it's a bunch of white dudes. I'm gonna say that right up front. Just a lot of white dudes. I. There.
No one's doing anything much different.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:I. I would say that once you get beyond the top bill cast, there isn't much nuance, which I do think maybe the. The intention was to kind of make, and maybe this is why the real senators on both sides were wanting this film canned. They all.
You would have gotten the sense that they all were just of the same evil, crooked ilk.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:And even though I do believe almost 98 of politicians are, that. That's just my personal belief. There's some philanthropy philanthropist in there somewhere.
There's some good Samaritan, and they're just doing their best and really care about people. Maybe you really do get that. So I would say it's probably a squeak above, because I do think they're great, but there was just no.
There was just no opportunity for someone to step up. And.
Seth:And.
Kyle:But I do think they did their job, and I do think that was the intention.
Seth:The president of the committee, though, I thought he was.
Kyle:That's true.
Seth:Really? Well, like, he was so good. Yeah.
Kyle:And he kept smirking.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:And, like, again, even down, that was good. Kids, like, the kids were so good.
Kyle:That's true. There are some moments.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:The senators themselves all feel like the same person, just cutting things kind of the point. Yeah, it's true.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Probably is.
Seth:It felt very intentional.
Nick:Yeah. I mean, I think if.
If there's, you know, it could take away from the overall story if you get, you know, too many characters to keep in your head as an audience member, but.
Kyle:Yeah, that's true.
Nick:Yeah. I didn't mind stock characters there.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And like you said, it probably was the point, which is why I went a squeak above.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:I still would have loved just, like, one. And, you know, I'm picky about that. Like, if it's just one supporting character, kind of just Come up and. But you know, the kids, the president.
You're right there.
Nick:Get a little stunt casting in there.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah.
Nick:I didn't know so and so was gonna. I know Buster Keaton was gonna be. Yeah, yeah.
Kyle:Like Gallagher smashing watermelons.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Just out of nowhere on the Senate floor. Carrot Top, just off the top rope, 2 to 0 boy ranger time writing. So there's a couple of layers here.
So Louis R. Foster wrote the story and then Sydney Buchanan the screenplay. So the story was based on the Montana Sydney Buchanan.
Obviously a lot of these will probably be lost on us, but top rated, Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Cleopatra. That's a classic.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Here comes Mr. Jordan. Like you said, the titles are all very much like this. Mr. Jordan. Here comes. Yeah. The talk of the town. Okay, so those are the four most notables.
Seth:Yeah, this. Yeah, especially again. Especially for the time. Like this is such a well crafted script. None of the dialogue specifically ever bothered me again.
And it kind of lended to whenever people needed to be a little more cartoony. It kind of got a little over the top, but not, not to the point that it was off putting.
But I felt like the real like human conversations, especially between him and. What's the girl's name?
Kyle:Gene.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:I always forget her actual name in the movie.
Seth:Yeah, she, like those conversations are so well put together and, and you can really feel as he kind of loses his sense of like wonder and respect for the system. Like you really feel the weight of it through the words that he's saying. So. Yeah, it's a boy. Boy Rangers for me.
Kyle:Saunders was her name.
Seth:Saunders. That's her name.
Kyle:I always forget.
Seth:It's not a typical Clarissa Saunders.
Kyle:Saunders. What do you think?
Nick:Well, I think this movie occupies the same space in my brain as 12 angry men, you know, and they, they.
Seth:Both a bunch of white guys.
Nick:Yes.
But they both, both movies do something interesting that if you watch them and you're, you know, younger, you're just like, ah, black and white movie.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:But you know, you, you get sucked in the, you know, the, the characters you can relate to, to the conflicts that the characters have and the relationships and things like that. And by the end of it you're like, hey, this is, this is a pretty good movie. I'm glad I watched it. And so I don't know, like, I've never heard of the.
The screen either. Screenwriter.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:But I mean, it works as a story and if I care about the characters and that means they're doing something right with the dialog. So I mean, Boy Rangers, for me, love it.
Seth:Hell, yeah.
Kyle:Same. There are just very few films that can resonate so cleanly over such a long period of time.
You know, I will say, though, you know, political dramas have that ability to them, you know, like, you know, it's interesting because we have a category about, like, where this ranks all time as a political drama, but political drama, just like war movies, encompasses, like, you can technically say that A Few Good Men, even though it's a courtroom procedural.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Is a. Is a political drama. And you could say that this is a procedural almost. You know, there's. It crosses a lot of lines, but it definitely resonates.
And it's. It's one that. I think it's a time capsule.
And I think because of that, it's kind of crazy how the writing from this time, even though they probably smelled bad, it's an absolute Boy Ranger. I think it crushes.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:So. And I have a hard. I'm not gonna lie, I do have a hard time.
Not all, like, I do like going back and watching classic movies, but I do have a hard time sometimes going back. And part of that is just because I. I love the. The darkness of newer films, like, people that aren't afraid to embrace it.
And I think in older movies, they just don't.
Seth:It depends, though. You can find some insane dark from back then.
Kyle:It's true. Especially in the noir space.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:Yeah. I. But I think for older films, a big thing is just pacing.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:It's just. It's like getting into that second act, you know, like. Like, I feel like that's a big thing with older movies.
Seth:Yes. Also not quite having an ending. Like.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Like, the.
The fact that this ended in the climax, I thought was very interesting because there was nothing after he admit, like, he faints and then pain admits everything, and then that's the ending. There's no, like, attempt at. I'll see the. Now. Now he and Saunders are going to get together. Like, there was no wrapping of those other things up.
They're just like, no, this is the ending. He wins, and that's it. Like, we're done.
Nick:Yeah.
Seth:I think that was really interesting, but I also kind of noticed that they did that a lot back then.
Kyle:Yeah. They did have an ending where they. The original ending was. They were going to show us, like, have it, like this thing with him and Saunders.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Being together. And they were going to do that, but they decided against it, I think.
Seth:I think it worked in its favor.
Kyle:I did, too.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:I agree. Three to Zero. Boy Rangers out the wazoo here. I don't know. Boy Rangers, wazoo. Those words exist in the same, the same lexicon. Right, right.
Directing the legendary Frank Capra.
Seth:Yeah. Which I know It's a Wonderful Life was one of his big ones. What were his other big ones?
Kyle:Frank Capra. Yep. A wonderful life. Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Loading. Loading. Man, he hadn't.
Seth:There was like three or four other ones that like, I, I forgot.
Kyle:It Happened One Night.
Seth:Oh, yeah.
Kyle:Which is huge. Which was the first movie, wasn't It Happened One Night? Was that the first movie to. To get a clean sweep at the Oscars?
Seth:Maybe.
Kyle:I think it was the first and you can't take it with you.
Seth:Oh, okay.
Kyle:Another one. Most of those in the 30s.
Seth: is first movie was. He did in: Kyle:Yep.
Seth:What a, What a remarkable career path for him.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Some of the earliest talking movies and then goes into like legitimately making some of the most. I mean, It's a Wonderful Life has become the most iconic Christmas movie in existence at this point. And I think he really did a solid job here.
Like, there's a reason It's. It's what, 92, 94% on Rotten Tomatoes considered the number one political drama ever made. Like, it still holds up. He. He threw.
And we're about to talk about the visuals in the next category.
But like, even down to how he moved the camera and how he still had everyone acting theatrically because that was something else I, I realized was like those scenes would go a long time without cutting. Sometimes they'd go for like two minutes before they would cut to another shot. And it just like, I feel like that let in.
In this very dialogue driven type of film, really let the actors feel. Flow in. In how they were communicating what they were communicating. So. Yeah, he did an incredible job for me. This is, this is a Boy Rangers.
Kyle:Boy Rangers, Yeah. I don't.
Nick:I'm not as familiar. I mean, I, I've seen this Wonderful Life and, and then this. But yeah. I'm not as familiar with. With Capra's other work.
I've heard the names before, so I, I don't know if I could recognize his aut. Yeah. I mean, well directed.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:Rangers for me. I mean, I don't know what, what I would change or what director I'd want to see do it.
You know, I mean, that might be an interesting thought experiment. Like, what would this look like if Tarantino did it or something. I don't know.
Kyle:But there is a category for that.
Seth:All right.
Nick:But, but Boy Ranger for me though.
Kyle:Boy Rangers.
Nick:Yeah.
Kyle:I'm just glad we keep saying it. Honestly. That was 245th time it's been said. I. This is a Boy Rangers across the board for me. I think brave choices, especially when you read.
Sometimes when you read the history and I'm. I'm a sucker for this. You've seen me do this time and time I like something and then I read the history, then I'm like, I like it even more.
Nick:Yeah, yeah.
Kyle:Like for me the behind the scenes is just as interesting as the movie itself.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:And when I read that like senators wanted this to not be made and they were trying to convince other studios to buy it and bury it, I was like, okay, I like this movie even more.
Which is funny because if it was made to today, which again I have a category for that, it would have a much more biting, like it would be ruthless today. It just. There would be no holds barred and. But back then, like this was brave. There wasn't as much static, there wasn't much noise.
There wasn't much distraction. We didn't have the digital age. So for the fact, the fact that they made this a focus to not have this movie made.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Says a lot about what they thought about it.
So I think the brave choices and just great decisions, some of the, some of the, the shots which we have a category for that but some of the decisions and how it's filmed.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:I think, I think it's quite innovative and beautiful. So. Yeah.
Seth:Yeah. I do think it's fascinating. They never want say which political party is which.
Kyle:Yeah, I put that in my notes.
Seth:Yeah. They just say the majority party and the minority party. They never say. Yeah, yeah, Republican or Democrat.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah.
Nick:It seems like to. If you had done that it would have just. It would have been made it hard to concentrate for the. Because then you would be reading.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:You know.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Yeah. You'd be looking for the political slant instead of understanding this movie is about how all of government sucks.
Kyle:Yeah. I agree. That was one of my favorite things and that's why it's timeless because the parties have flip flopped 15 times since this time.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:I mean they've. In terms of like their views and what, what they would say their party moniker is. They've changed multiple times since this movie was made.
It's like Banana Republic. When I worked at Banana Republic at Christmas, Christmas time in college, they said, you know why our clothes are These colors, I'm like, why?
They're like, they're timeless. You can buy this now and wear it in 10 years and it's still going to be in.
Seth:It's fair.
Kyle:That's because these shirts aren't Democrats or Republicans. These are just standard placard polos.
Seth:Yeah, they're libertarian shirts.
Kyle:Made in Vietnam. Made in Vietnam. Three button placard silk. Okay, I'm done. Cashmere. Did you want to say would. What?
Nick:Oh, I was gonna say those shirts voted for Kanye. Not because they wanted him to win, but just.
Seth:Just to make a point. It was a protest.
Kyle:Yeah. This is a protest void for. Yay.
Seth:Voight.
Kyle:Ye Voight. That was a movie avoided. That was a Freudian movie slip. I said voight, John Voight, with your feet, not your wallet. Or I slaughtered another saying.
Nick:Oh, you did it.
Kyle:Yeah, I love it. I'm good at that. Every episode.
Nick:That was. Well, I like that one.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:My.
Nick:I missed the good old days. The innocent days of American politics.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah.
Nick:Like when Kanye ran, right? He was, you know, he was one candidate and he was wearing another candidate smirk. Yeah, the good old days.
Kyle:I know when it was just a straight up political slant. Like it's kind of like LinkedIn. Like people that make jokes on LinkedIn. It's like corporate haha funny. It's not like comedian funny.
It's like this is funny within the parameters of the HR playbook. Yeah, that's what politics was. It was like subtle jabs like, well, your policy was this. It's like, well, you spent money on now it's what? Dear God.
Seth:Yeah. They would insult each other by calling each other esteemed colleagues.
Kyle:Yes, that's true. They did.
Nick:Right, right.
Seth:The esteemed senator from Arkansas.
Nick:It's like the, the Shane Gillis bit is just the. The first debate and it's like his wife, ugly as a dog.
Seth:You could do that.
Nick:We could do that now.
Kyle:Yeah, that's an amazing bit. And. And it is true. I remember the first time I heard that, I was like, oh my God, we're in a different era. This is not Mitt Romney's party here.
Let's not go too far down that road. Yeah, yeah, Screw, I'm an anarchist. Woo. Maybe. I don't know. I'm thinking about it.
Seth:There you go.
Kyle:How do you think I'd look as an anarchist? I care about how I look.
Seth:Would look pretty much the same.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one gives a fuck. That's true. I'm just gonna screw it all up. What do you think?
Nick:I can't be an anarchist. I can't. I can't live off the grid like that.
Kyle:That.
Nick:Yeah, I feel like. I feel like you have to be. If you're gonna go anarchist, you got to be willing to do that. And I.
Kyle:But no, yeah, you're right. Anarchy is like a thing.
Nick:Yeah.
Kyle:Can't just say you're an anarchist. Like, you gotta kind of.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:You gotta come in, live it. You got to learn how to, like, probably make bombs and.
Seth:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Nick: re's a lot more commitment in: Seth:Key bands and you could throw your fist in there. You're an anarchist.
Nick:Yeah, yeah. Now. Now you need more than just. Just Radiohead.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:Gotta get your hands dirty.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:There are no good anarchist punk bands anymore.
Seth:Yeah. Boo.
Kyle:They're all just like Green day sell out 4 to 0. Boy Rangers in anarchy here. It's just a big. A big old stew here. What's in front of us.
Cinematography, production design, sound, costumes, editing, stunts, music.
Seth:Yeah, score. I mean, the stunts were in insane. It's like Tom Cruise was there.
Kyle:Those boys getting ran off the road was pretty wild.
Seth:Those old men getting punched in the face and falling down. I will say there were a lot of really good cinematography choices in this. One of my favorites was the scene where he leaves the Lincoln Monument and.
And Saunders finds him. And I loved how insanely backlit they were, but you could still see their faces in the shadows.
And then there was that one scene near the beginning where the. The governor is sitting in the chair and he's all in light.
And then the two, like, billionaire people, Taylor and the other guy, are, like, talking down to him.
And not only is he in the lower half of the frame and they're in the upper half of the frame, but they're lit, so they're completely in shadow while he's in the light.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Like, clearly being the one who wants to do good, but is being forced to do things against what he wants to do. Like, there's stuff that could today be considered pretty basic stuff, but again, I just think back in the day, like, those.
That type of symbolism, the visual symbolism in those types of shots wasn't really as much of a thing back then. It was really like discovering how are you going to symbolically represent who your characters are with the lighting? So, yeah, it's a Boy Rangers.
For me, that was. It's very subtle sometimes, but very well done.
Kyle:Boy, oh, boy. Rangers.
Nick:Yeah. I Hate to be boring and just agree, but.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:Yeah, it's. I mean, it's.
Seth:If it's good, it's good just on.
Kyle:It, you know you want to.
Nick:Yeah. I was gonna make a joke about, like, why is it all in black and white? But it was. It's dumb because it had to be. I love that. Yeah.
Seth:I mean, it didn't have to be color film existed, did it? Yeah. The wizard of Oz came out six years before this, so they could have.
Nick:Just done it, like, technicolor style.
Seth:Yeah. It was cheaper to do it in black and white, but, yeah, they could have done. They could have done.
Nick:Well, okay.
Seth:They wanted to.
Nick:All right, then I'll. What's the honest?
Kyle:Not honest. Not stupid.
Nick:Honest, not stupid. Yeah.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:Here we go.
Seth:Just because it wasn't in color, I want to see too many white people.
Nick:Yeah. I want to see. I want to see Jimmy Stewart in. In color. That's what I want to say.
Seth:There we go.
Kyle:Yeah. Seriously had better technology available to you. Come on. That's hilarious. You literally just flipped. Because I was, like, on it, baby.
Nick:I was like. And I just did it.
Kyle:I love it.
Nick:I'd be terrible in Congress. They're like, hey, Nick. All right, I'm doing it.
Kyle: s the best tweet I saw of the:Like, the world is so heated and one guy, literally, that he had no father following.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:And some guy with, like, two followers tweeted, I don't know. I like them both. During the debate, and it went viral.
It was the best tweet of all time because it was just so, like, counter to how everybody thinks. I was like, that's kind of funny.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Oh, I. I think it's funny you shed on it because I'm gonna. I am gonna give it a Boy Ranger. I just totally. Should I go with you?
Seth:No.
Kyle:Should I?
Seth:No.
Kyle:No. Okay. You're right. I don't know. I don't want to lose credibility.
Seth:It's.
Kyle:It is.
Seth:You can say it's squeak over.
Kyle:Here's one thing. I will say that. Yeah. Well, no, I think one thing that's interesting. I can't remember.
I was listening to an interview with an actor who was talking about the difference between acting in theater and acting in film.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:They're so interesting because films from this period, there's a bleed over, oh, 100. There's definitely a theater vibe.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:To this.
Nick:Yeah, yeah.
Seth:Like I said, with those long takes, like, without cutting, you really get a sense of the actors working together in the room as opposed to, like, here's his coverage. Here's his coverage that was shot two hours later.
So, yeah, it feels like they're good, but there's technically no chemistry because they're not really acting together.
Kyle:Yeah. Oh, it was Joe Montana on Billy Corgan's podcast. Joe Montana did the Magnificent Others.
Billy Corgan from this Matching is a great interview he was talking about because he came up through theater and he said just the differences. But it's so interesting. Yeah. Like. Like just. Even the Senate setup, it just felt like a theater piece.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Which worked here.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Which.
Seth:Absolutely.
Kyle:It reminds me of, like, Glenn Gary, Glen Ross, because that was originally Broadway and they really preserved a lot of that 12 angry men Broadway feel for Glengarry Glen Ross. And I think it works. It adds to the timelessness. I think they could do it like this today.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:You know, one. A Few Good Men. Even though there's a lot of set pieces, once they get to the procedural part, there's something about this genre that.
That benefits from that theater feel.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Of having one place where all the banter happens.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Old, like, Roman films. Like, they have that. Where there's just one location where so much of it happens.
And it's so much about the dialogue and the discourse and how they're exchanging. And I think it's perfectly done here.
Seth:So.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Agree.
Kyle:Boy Rangers. But for the. For the note, Nick is right to on it.
Seth:It should have been in color.
Kyle:Should have been in color.
Seth:It's a boy. Boy Rangers with an asterisk.
Kyle:Yeah. Wizard of my ass.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:What?
Kyle:Wizard of Oz. Wizard of my ass. I don't know. You said that was the one in color.
Seth:That was in color.
Kyle:Yeah, it was a callback.
Seth:Okay.
Kyle:It was a quick callback.
Seth:I think it was a bad callback.
Kyle:Wizard of my ass. Yeah. I wait at the door and I swayed and I wait. Okay. That was a callback, too.
Is it a good callback if you call back to something that you said that was stupid earlier and it's dumber now? Is that still a good callback?
Seth:Can be, yeah.
Kyle:Comedy 101, ladies and gentlemen. Five to zero. It doesn't matter at this point, but we're into our bro categories. Surf's up, bro. This is called Politico, you know, so let's go.
We did this last week for our Saving Private Ryan. We were shocked to find out that Saving Private ryan was number 24.
Seth:Yeah. Absurd.
Kyle:This one is a different story.
Seth:This is definitely number one, right?
Kyle:It is number. The number one highest rated. When you consolidate all the reviews. Highest rated of all time. But I want to go through a few. So here's the list.
Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Here's the top five. This is a really interesting list, by the way. And some of these, I'm like, are these really political dramas?
All the President's Men.
Seth:Okay.
Kyle: . The Black Klansman.:We were staunch defenders of him during the Tenant Tenant episode because he got a lot of hate for that.
Seth:Have you seen that?
Nick:I didn't see it.
Kyle:Okay. Yeah, he got a lot of hate for that.
Seth:You should come over and watch it. I got it on 4K. It's so good.
Kyle:It's so good.
Nick:Yo, big Christopher Nolan guy.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah.
Nick:Just hadn't watched it, so. Yeah, let's do it.
Kyle:Now's the time.
Seth:It kind of makes Inception and Memento feel like. Or, yeah, Memento feel like child's play with how, like, complex it gets with its time travel ideas. Like, it's really dope.
Nick:Can we smoke while we watch it?
Kyle:100 necessary. I. I didn't. Because.
Seth:You got plans tonight?
Kyle:I drank decaf, bro.
Seth:Actually, I'm down.
Kyle:Oh, you too. So cute. The Emerald Couch connection.
Seth:It's the best.
Nick:Yeah.
Kyle:Number four, Argo.
Seth:Yeah. Okay. And I, you know, genuinely say what you will about Ben Affleck. I. I agree with that ranking, dude.
Kyle:It's incredible.
Seth:It's a fantastic movie.
Kyle:And Cranston is so good in it.
Seth:Yeah. Oh, he's so good.
Kyle:Oh, yeah. I'm not on Argo. I mean, Ben Affleck.
Seth:No. A lot of people do, though, is what I'm saying.
Kyle:Really?
Seth:As a director, just. Well, they. On Ben Affleck. Yes, as a director, but the movie in general, like, especially because it was won best picture that year.
Kyle:It was a. Well, that was a little bit of a down year though, wasn't it?
Seth:A little bit, yeah.
Kyle:But it was still good.
Seth: cause. Yeah. I think that was: Kyle:I loved it.
Seth:I hate that movie.
Kyle:David Russell's my boy.
Seth:He's. Okay.
Kyle:We gonna say something?
Nick:I never saw that all the way through.
Kyle:Yeah. Silver Linings.
Nick:Silver lining.
Seth:It's not. I hated it. Mostly because I just cannot stand Jennifer Lawrence.
Kyle:I love her. Sorry. I love her. I love her.
Seth:I'm just Gonna clip that out.
Kyle:Yeah. Number five, the Death of Stalin. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna do the top 10 just to kind of add some more depth here. Good night. Good luck.
Seth:Okay.
Kyle:Interesting. Serpico. Very interesting.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle: e War room Spotlight and JFK.: Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:One of my favorites that I would put in at least the top 15 is IDEs of March, Ryan Gosling and George Clooney. That.
Seth:I still haven't seen that one, but I've heard good things.
Kyle:That one has a theater feel.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Big time. But what do you guys think? So. Rightfully so, number one.
Seth:Oh, absolutely. Boy Rangers. 100% of the way. This again. There's a reason, and it sucks that it's still politically relevant today.
I wish people could look at this and be like, oh, yeah, shit should change. But no one has. It's all still the same. And yeah, it's, It's. It still resonates today. So that. Yeah, 100%. I agree with that. It should be number one.
Kyle:Loveies. What do you think, man, I feel.
Nick:Like I don't really know enough about the genre to, to really be passionate about it, but this list, but I don't have a problem with it.
Kyle:Yeah.
Nick:You know. You know, I haven't seen Silver Linings playbook, like.
Kyle:Yeah, you can on it, you know. Do you want to pull out your. On a card again?
Nick:I'm ready. I'm ready. Was it, Was it, Was it Gosling or Reynolds? Which one was in it?
Seth:Silver Linings. Yeah, that was Bradley Cooper.
Kyle:Bradley.
Nick:Oh, shoot. There we go. That was unintentional.
Seth:None of the Ryan's.
Nick:Yeah, yeah. Just.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Yep. It is storming overhead if you hear that thunder. That happens sometimes in Nashville. We are having the Seattle summer of our lives here.
So you're gonna go Boy Ranger?
Nick:Yeah, I'm gonna go Boy Ranger.
Kyle:You want to on it, don't you?
Seth:You fired him up with the last one. I see.
Kyle:Had a look in his eyes. He was like, oh, that's. Is that an option?
Seth:He's like, it's not in color, so therefore it's a bad political movie.
Nick:That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
Kyle:Yeah, Yeah, I, I, I go Boy Ranger. And here's the thing. I, I love this genre. Yeah, I love it. I love procedurals. I love courtroom, and I would say Senate chambers courtroom. Not.
Not much different. Yeah, I, I love it. And I I think this sets the mold. You see the influence of it in so many modern movies. And I mentioned Ides of March earlier.
You can see the. The influence there. Yeah, there's just so many. It's just, you know, it's a movie that's permeated throughout.
Now that I've seen it, I understand the history of it. So major. Boy Ranger 6 to 0. This is going to be a little bit of a last. I alluded to this early. Kind of a controversial category to close out on.
It's an older movie. All we do is remake shit now existing ip. Should this be remade and should someone try it today in a modern setting?
And if they did, give me your yes or no, but also maybe give me an idea of what you think it would be like or who would be in it. I'm just curious.
Seth:Okay.
Kyle:What you think.
Seth:This is a layered question.
Kyle:Very.
Seth:Should it be remade? No, no. Could it be remade and be remade? Well, absolutely it could. I think you.
You could even literally take the script and barely modify it and it would work almost exactly as is. Again, should not be remade, but absolutely could be remade. And could be remade. Well, who would I want to see direct it?
That's the other question, though. Would it be set in modern times or would the remake be still set in the 30s?
Kyle:Yeah, that's a good question.
Seth:Looking at that weirdly, I think Robert Zemeckis could probably get away with it. Who? Oh, shit. Who did Boyhood and before? Richard Linklater. Yes.
Kyle:Yeah, he's great.
Seth:I think he could do it really well, especially since in the. The before trilogy, he's known for those very long, like 14 minute shots at times. And so, yeah, I think he could do it. Well, who could be in it?
I mean, I already said earlier if I would say the guy who played Dennis in It's Always Sunny would be an incredible. Because he could hit the innocent and he could hit the fed up pissed off and I think bring that theatrical gravitas to it that it would need.
So I don't quite know how this scales on a yes or no, but I guess if the. If the overarching question is should it be remade, then I'm gonna have to go with honest, not stupid. It should not be remade.
Kyle:So it would be positive for the movie. So it'd be a Boy Rangers. If it shouldn't be, that means that it was that good then.
Seth:Then Boy Rangers. Yes, it should not be remade, but I think it could and could be done. Well, if it was.
Kyle:Yeah. Okay. That's a good aspect of it. Could it. Because everything's being remade and a lot of it's being remade poorly. But there's. There's opportunity.
Seth:Yeah.
Kyle:Yeah. What do you think?
Nick:Well, I think when it comes to the director, I think Aaron Sorkin would be really good.
Seth:Yes, absolutely.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Yeah. That's solid now, but in terms of.
Nick:Remaking it, I almost feel like if you. You know how you just do a movie, you'll. You'll take the story, but you'll put it in some. Put it somewhere else.
Yeah, like, like, like Chira is just Liz Estrada set in Chicago.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:I wonder if you could do this movie Mr. Smith goes to Washington. But you said it somewhere else and it's made. It's about local politics or it's about.
Because I think if you do it about D.C. politics, it would be impossible. Not for people not to go online and be like, oh, this is really for the. You know, for the woke. Left or Da.
Kyle:Da.
Nick:For the. You know. All right. Like, it just, it just seems like it would be too hard to do it about D.C. politics.
Seth:But if you did it, especially with it staying kind of apolitical as it did.
Nick:Yeah, yeah. I think if you. You would almost have to. Could you do like a high school version and set it in that. And then, you know, I'm not familiar.
As familiar with what actors would be good for that.
Seth:But. But could you set it in Chalamet?
Kyle:Yeah, probably.
Nick:Yeah. But I wonder about that, like setting it slightly somewhere else but outside of dc. But you. That same story.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:I don't know who does Jimmy's story? I'm trying to think of an actor who would. You said Chalamet?
Seth:Oh, that was. I was just joking.
Nick:But you know, I feel like he.
Seth:Could pull it off.
Nick:I felt, I feel like right now I don't really watch this show, but the lead guy and the bear.
Kyle:Oh, yeah, that's who I was thinking.
Nick:Yeah. It seems like he would be the, the Jimmy Stewart character.
Seth:I don't know. He could hit innocent enough though.
Kyle:Yeah, he's too good looking.
Seth:Not even that.
Nick:But like, there's an edginess to him.
Seth:There is. He's like a little too cool and he's very intense. Like. And, and, and so then who do we get?
Nick:Because I don't know. I don't know if we have anyone.
Kyle:Austin Butler.
Seth:I was thinking that Austin.
Kyle:But of course I'm casting him. Everything. Remember when I predicted he was going to be an American Psycho remake?
Seth:Oh, yeah.
Kyle:Three months before. And they did it. Yeah, y', all. I told y'. All. A lot of people said you're full of shit. Yeah, fuck y'. All. I'm fat, but I know my shit.
Seth:Weirdly, I kind of feel like Tom Holland could actually pull this off.
Nick:Yeah, I think Tom Holland could.
Seth:I think he could.
Kyle:Yeah.
Seth:Outside of Spider Man, I think he's a very well, well rounded actor. I do not like him as Spider man, but.
Nick:How old is he now?
Seth:He's. I think he's like just under my age, so like late 20s, early 30s. Somewhere around there.
Kyle:Okay.
Seth:Yeah. Yeah, I think he could pull it off. Well, yeah.
Kyle:Get somebody British.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:I wonder if you did something like. Like you reimagined it so it was just like. Like RIP, but like David lynch or somebody. You just go completely in that Twin Peaks. Yeah.
Seth:There was so that moment where all the reporters sit him down in the bar as that was happening. Literally all I could think of was this feels so out of the norm.
Kind of David Lynchian where it's like, you know, this is actually happening, but it's almost like a dreamlike situation. It was. Yeah. It's funny you say that. Yeah. Because that's exactly what I was thinking.
Kyle:So it feels like your. Your mind's very open to this. Are you one you thinking honest not to be like, you think there's an opening here?
Nick:Yeah, I do. I mean, I don't think you could remake it just straight up, so. Yeah, I think you gotta do. You'd have to reimagine it in some way.
Kyle:Yeah, yeah.
Nick:I mean, I feel like it's.
Seth:It's like the Lion King is the Hamlet.
Nick:Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that would be. But then, you know, I mean, then again, though, you know, they remade the Color Purple, so.
Seth:Yeah.
Nick:So I feel like everything. You think something can't be touched and then it's like.
Seth:But was there. Was the remake good?
Nick:Like, I didn't see it all the.
Seth:Way through, so I feel like probably not. Yeah. You didn't finish it.
Kyle:Yeah, it was the color green. By the end, they started pulling out the other colors of the wheel. Of the wheel. Spielberg executive produced the remake too, though.
Did you know that? He did both of them.
Seth:I'm not surprised.
Kyle:What's up? Ladies and gentlemen? Huge bummer here. In doing five years of movie wars, this has never actually happened. We had a technical error.
There was lightning storm. I don't know what it was. We were recording during a storm. Something happened to where we lost the last five to six minutes of this show.
And although not crucial, some good stuff in there. But all you need to know is that Mr. Smith Goes to Washington was a clean sweep 7 to 0.
Our amazing guest Nick Bush went in on the on the no category to say, yeah, maybe this should be remade.
And although I danced around the subject, said lots of interesting, hilarious things because I'm so charming and good at this podcasting thing, I still ultimately said, no, they shouldn't remake it because I'm fucking tired of remakes, to put it eloquently. But anyway, I'm so bummed that the last seven minutes got cut out. Hopefully it never happens again the first time in five years.
But thank you so much for listening and while I got you. Thank you so much. Remember to share Movie wars with your friends. It's a free way to grow us. If you love the show, please send it to other folks.
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