Independence Day with Joel Beasley
In this episode of Movie Wars, we take a deep dive into the explosive legacy of Independence Day (1996) with Joel Beasley, comedian and host of the Modern CTO podcast. This isn’t just a nostalgia trip—we’re asking the big question: Does this genre-defining blockbuster still hold up in today’s cinematic landscape?
We break down what made Independence Day such a cultural juggernaut—its record-breaking box office, iconic one-liners, unforgettable alien battles, and of course, Will Smith’s rocket-launch into Hollywood superstardom. But we also get real about what hasn’t aged well: clunky writing, thin character arcs, and the cheesy patriotism that feels a bit too on-the-nose in today’s world.
From White House explosions to Will Smith punching aliens in the face, we unpack the movie’s epic highs and eyebrow-raising lows.
Together with Joel, we trace the evolution of action movies in the ‘90s—when practical effects met early CGI—and debate whether modern blockbusters still capture that magic. We talk career pivots, like how Independence Day launched Smith from sitcom star to bona fide action hero, and how Jeff Goldblum’s charming chaos became part of the film’s DNA.
Through personal stories, laughs, and critical takes, we explore what it means for a movie to become a piece of shared cultural memory—and what happens when we revisit that memory with modern eyes. Is it timeless, or just stuck in time?
Takeaways:
- We examine how Independence Day shaped the blockbuster blueprint and kickstarted Will Smith’s film career.
- The panel dissects the film’s groundbreaking (for its time) visual effects, comparing them to today’s standards.
- We explore how much of the movie’s best dialogue was improvised—and how much weight it placed on Will Smith’s charisma.
- We debate whether the film’s writing and character development live up to its epic scale.
- The episode wraps with a fun but honest look at how movie presidents (especially Bill Pullman’s) have shaped public imagination.
🎙️ Whether you grew up watching Independence Day every Fourth of July or you're coming to it fresh, this episode is packed with laughs, insights, and just the right amount of sci-fi cynicism. Come for the aliens, stay for the debate.
Transcript
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Speaker A:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Movie wars podcast.
Speaker A:I'm your host, Kyle.
Speaker B:I'm Seth.
Speaker C:I'm Joel.
Speaker A:We have an amazing guest here.
Speaker A:Joel Beasley, amazing comedian, podcast host.
Speaker A:Introduce yourself, man.
Speaker C:Yeah, my name's Joel Beasley.
Speaker C:I've been running the modern CTO podcast for.
Speaker C:For 10 years and a thousand episodes.
Speaker A:Dang.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Largest tech leadership podcast out there.
Speaker C:And then I got into comedy about a year ago.
Speaker A:And you're on tour.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:What's your tour called again?
Speaker A:It's called the Date Night Comedy.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And you're out with my friend Lee Harden was on some.
Speaker C:Lee Harden's the headliner.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:John the Toy.
Speaker C:John the Toy, Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Amazing.
Speaker A:John's been on the podcast.
Speaker A:Lee is an old friend of mine.
Speaker A:Amazing guy.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker A:And it's going well.
Speaker C:It's going well.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:We had our first show two weeks ago and Paula did a guest spot too.
Speaker A:Amazing.
Speaker C:We had John, Paula and Lee and me and it was great.
Speaker B:We'll be having Paula on in a few weeks.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:What's she doing with us again?
Speaker B:Do the right thing in the sand lot.
Speaker A:Oh, wow, I forgot.
Speaker A:I'm gonna have to really prepare myself to watch those again.
Speaker A:Well, we are doing Independence Day today.
Speaker A:This is our July.
Speaker A:And Seth's helping me become more thematic.
Speaker A:He told me I can't just do Arnold and Sly movies all the time.
Speaker B:We can do action movies, but we gotta make sure they actually like, fit what's going on in the world.
Speaker A:But we should be doing them weekly.
Speaker B:Ish.
Speaker A:Arnold weekly.
Speaker B:You do your own spin off podcast.
Speaker B:That's nothing but Arnold.
Speaker A:Arnold wars that way.
Speaker A:And old, old Movie wars fans know.
Speaker A:They know the.
Speaker A:They know my.
Speaker A:I had a problem.
Speaker B:I'll get you the Arnold Schwarzenegger mask.
Speaker B:My dad used to wear a baseball practice.
Speaker B:He was trying to pump us up.
Speaker A:I bet your dad loves Arnold because he's a bodybuilder.
Speaker B:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker A:That's how I was introduced to him.
Speaker A:Was my dad would.
Speaker A:Even though he was a complete drunk, he was jacked.
Speaker A:I don't know how that happened.
Speaker A:He's the most jacked alcoholic on the planet.
Speaker A:But he had.
Speaker A:He had the gold gym post and I was just obsessed.
Speaker A:And there was a picture of him like curling me in front of the Arnold poster.
Speaker A:And I've always just had a fondness.
Speaker A:But anyway, we're talking about Independence Day, man.
Speaker A:And we were talking on the way over.
Speaker A:I was so excited to come back to this movie.
Speaker A:Yeah, the hype was so real.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:It's still one of the most beloved action movies of the day.
Speaker A:It made a shit ton of money.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Will Smith, this was really.
Speaker A:I mean, he was.
Speaker A:He was coming up and he had, you know, he was starting to move away from fresh prints and he started to do of these comedies and he was starting to really get.
Speaker A:This is where he was really taking big steps towards like, not just stardom, but where he became a superstar.
Speaker B:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker B:I mean, he had just done Men in Black, like right before this.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I mean, he is like, this is in the middle of like a 15 year.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was.
Speaker B:I think Bad Boys came out right before this.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And that was.
Speaker A:And that was.
Speaker A:Was that Mel Bay?
Speaker A:I think was Michael Bay.
Speaker A:Michael.
Speaker A:Mel Bay.
Speaker A:Was it Mel Bay?
Speaker A:The guitar books?
Speaker B:Maybe the Mel B.
Speaker A:Learn chords with Mel Bay?
Speaker A:Yeah, but yeah, Michael Bay, you know, had the rock and then Bad Boys and was kind of his foray and so.
Speaker A:But yeah, I.
Speaker A:I was kind of shocked coming back to this that it just did not.
Speaker A:It felt very plasticky and really did.
Speaker A:I kept thinking about some old conversations because when we did Brazil, you and I were talking about just like considering how old it was.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just visually how advanced it looked compared to movies after it.
Speaker A:And this is another example.
Speaker A:I'm like, there were movies that came out before this that look much better.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, this reminded me of when we did Judge Dread.
Speaker B:Like, it was that weird juxtaposition of like.
Speaker B:It felt like it was still trying to be an 80s action movie, but also tried to.
Speaker B:To Shoehorn, kind of the modern 90s animation and filming style.
Speaker B:But it's like the.
Speaker B:For me, I think what really set it apart was like they tried to use a little too much animation mixed in with the real stuff they were blowing up.
Speaker B:And so stuff didn't match very well.
Speaker B:But on top of that, I don't think the writing held up like at all bad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Also really disappointed.
Speaker A:I have a random for this.
Speaker A:But speaking of effects, it broke the record for use of miniatures.
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:There was never.
Speaker A:At this point, there had never been this many miniatures used.
Speaker A:Even like compared to Terminator.
Speaker A:Terminator had.
Speaker A:Had all kinds of miniatures.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So what did you think?
Speaker C:I loved it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, I thought it was great.
Speaker C:Look, that's one of those movies that I typically watch every year before 4th of July coming up on it.
Speaker C:And I.
Speaker C:There's things that, you know, I don't like about it, but for the most part, I think I'm a pretty positive person.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:You Are.
Speaker A:I'm a nihilist.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:That is completely okay.
Speaker A:No, it's not.
Speaker A:I'm a nihilist.
Speaker B:No, in my opinion, it was definitely better than it was.
Speaker B:Than it was not.
Speaker B:But there were some things.
Speaker B:And again, I didn't watch this as a kid.
Speaker B:I didn't grow up with this movie.
Speaker B:So I don't really have any nostalgia filter going back before college.
Speaker B:But the one time I've seen it before this was I watched it, like, in or around college.
Speaker B:And I remember loving it when I saw it, like, so good.
Speaker B:And then for whatever reason, this time I just.
Speaker B:It didn't hit me the same way.
Speaker B:It did.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, I'm glad you love it.
Speaker C:You're sensitized to it because you see all these great movies.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've seen some pretty bad ones too.
Speaker C:I made a list.
Speaker C:I made a list of things I like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Let's hear Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker C:David.
Speaker B:I mean, always.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He's my spirit animal.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:100 anytime.
Speaker B:Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker B:Goldblum is.
Speaker B:Is in a movie.
Speaker B:And he even tries a little.
Speaker B:It's great.
Speaker A:Even when he's turning into a fly.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Well, I like it because I think it reflects our society too, because all the nerds became cool kids.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:And he was nerd.
Speaker C:And he became cool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we didn't know at the time.
Speaker A:Remember, this is what, 96.
Speaker A:We didn't know that the richest freaking people in the world were going to be freaking nerds.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Except for me.
Speaker A:I'm a broke nerd.
Speaker A:How did that happen?
Speaker C:Something went wrong in the Matrix.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That is true.
Speaker A:I made a choice.
Speaker C:It's not the kids, it's the wife.
Speaker A:Y.
Speaker A:I made a choice.
Speaker B:You made four choices.
Speaker A:Yes, I did.
Speaker A:It's so true.
Speaker C:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker C:Least favorite character was Julius, the nasally assistant.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:The guy like this.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:I gotta call my mother.
Speaker B:What was going on with that?
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Okay, so let's technical side of things for a minute.
Speaker B:Clearly the whole movie's adr, because that's what you kind of did back then.
Speaker B:Film cameras were incredibly loud.
Speaker B:So 95 of movies back then were fully ADR.
Speaker B:I do not know what was going on because the voice did not match the face whatsoever.
Speaker B:And I'm like, who gave you this note?
Speaker B:That was like, hey, why don't you sound like you smoke 12 packs?
Speaker A:That's because it's not a.
Speaker A:It's not an act.
Speaker A:That's his voice.
Speaker A:That's his actual voice.
Speaker B:Why does it sound so bad with the ADR?
Speaker A:Did you see Mrs.
Speaker A:Doubtfire?
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:No, I.
Speaker A:Actually, he's in that.
Speaker A:And he sounds exactly the same.
Speaker A:Yes, he's the same person.
Speaker A:And Mrs.
Speaker A:Doubtfire, growing up, I had a cigarettes down.
Speaker C:I had a Jewish friend, and it sounded like his worried mom.
Speaker C:That's what.
Speaker C:That's what he sounds like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:My childhood friends, Jewish, worried mom.
Speaker A:Joe, get back in the house.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:We made sandwiches.
Speaker A:Spirit.
Speaker B:Abraham.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker C:It was cool to see the Twin Towers, though.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That was a little bit of a.
Speaker B:Of a.
Speaker B:I'm glad.
Speaker B:I'm glad they didn't pick those to blow up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because that would not have aged well.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:At all.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:And it's weird how.
Speaker A:It's just movies that have the Twin Towers are just not just the Twin Towers, but movies with terrorism.
Speaker A:Movies with buildings exploding.
Speaker A:Ever since 9, 11, it's still even to me.
Speaker A:Like, I'm a really big Die Hard fan.
Speaker A:But, you know, I think It's Die Hard 2 that has, like, skyscrapers exploding.
Speaker A:I mean, I think skyscrapers explode in all of them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I think there's a plane.
Speaker A:I can't remember, but, yeah, it's like.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:It hits me weird now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Especially like when we were talking about the Snyder movies, like, watching that.
Speaker B:That just building fall over in man of Steel.
Speaker B:It was just.
Speaker B:I remember at the time, it was a little uncomfortable and a little jarring.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:They did blow up.
Speaker C:When you said the miniatures thing, I was like, that makes sense.
Speaker C:Because when they were blowing up the buildings.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:It was very much like a shot of a miniature building exploding.
Speaker B:Fire is one of the hardest things to animate.
Speaker B:I think it's literally, fire and water are the two most difficult things to animate.
Speaker B:And so because of that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:For the longest time, as.
Speaker B:As crappy as it looks today, it still looks better to blow up a miniature than it would have to for them to try to animate the fire.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is why a movie like Fury Road is so phenomenal, because those aren't miniatures.
Speaker A:And the explosion.
Speaker A:The pyrotechnics are real.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And real pyrotechnics, if you can do them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they're done right, can be a game changer.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But you love it.
Speaker A:Anything else in your notes?
Speaker C:Oh, I got a lot of stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I wrote my favorite points when the boy was in the car with the girl, saying this Is the last night on Earth.
Speaker C:Do you want to die a virgin?
Speaker C:That was like.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:I resonated with that.
Speaker C:Yeah, I've used lines like that before.
Speaker C:He had the better context than I did.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Leave it up to the teenage boy to be like, the world's about to end.
Speaker A:It's like, how can we get some sex?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I would.
Speaker C:I would be more like, what is reality itself, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:My atoms.
Speaker C:Your atoms.
Speaker C:Let's go for it.
Speaker A:How does this fit into the baby?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:How does this fit into the simulation?
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:He grew up to be a actor.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He did a couple other movies.
Speaker A:I couldn't find him in the cast.
Speaker A:He's, like, way down.
Speaker A:I couldn't find.
Speaker A:I couldn't remember his name, but he's been in a bunch of.
Speaker A:I think he was in surf ninjas.
Speaker A:He was in all kinds of stuff, that kid.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Good for him.
Speaker A:Keep working, keep working, Keep trying.
Speaker B:We're all trying to do.
Speaker A:Keep.
Speaker A:Keep not being a virgin.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I wrote my best two lines of the film.
Speaker A:Okay, tell us.
Speaker C:All right, you're never going to get to fly the space shuttle if you marry a stripper.
Speaker B:What a great line.
Speaker C:It is very accurate.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:When they do their background.
Speaker C:I've interviewed astronauts.
Speaker C:They do their background.
Speaker C:They go super deep into all your relationships, friends and family.
Speaker C:They go meet with them and everything.
Speaker C:I bet they would meet with that stripper and just not going to space.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And the other one was when he said, oh, no, you did not just shoot that green shit at me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was like, yes, I love that.
Speaker C:Yes, I love that.
Speaker A:A lot of those were improv by Will Smith.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, what is that smell line?
Speaker B:Totally improv.
Speaker A:Totally improv.
Speaker B:Sulfur desert.
Speaker A:Like, over half of Will Smith's lines are improv.
Speaker C:What about the one where he's like, do you want to see my clearance?
Speaker C:And he shows on the alien when he's trying to get.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:That's so good.
Speaker A:See, there are good mo.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker C:Yeah, I made a list.
Speaker A:Yeah, there are good moments.
Speaker B:Look, like I said, I think it is better than it is not, but it's.
Speaker B:Some of the.
Speaker B:Some of the not so great things are just egregious.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:When I walked in here, I saw this pop culture dungeon.
Speaker A:Yeah, whatever.
Speaker B:I'll take it.
Speaker B:I'm like, I don't need a sex dungeon.
Speaker B:Pop culture dungeon.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:We don't need an island.
Speaker C:No, I'm like, I'm out of my depth.
Speaker C:Here.
Speaker C:Saber and Lord of the Rings.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're crushing it.
Speaker A:Modern CTO style.
Speaker C:There we go.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Anything else?
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker C:Oh, no, that's sad.
Speaker C:I wrote the saddest line of the movie.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:Say it.
Speaker C:I don't do it.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Sad.
Speaker B:Here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:When.
Speaker C:When the president guy goes to his daughter and she goes.
Speaker C:His mommy sleeping now.
Speaker C:When the mom dies.
Speaker C:And, you know, when I was single and I watched that line, or if I'm a kid and I watched that line, I was like, oh, he's lined up to her.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But when you have kids and you watch that movie, you're like, oh, my God.
Speaker C:She understands.
Speaker C:Those are just the words she's using.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Boom.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That hit me in the feels.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, that's.
Speaker C:That's such a.
Speaker C:That's like realizing that you've progressed through life to a certain point.
Speaker C:Just me watching that.
Speaker A:So you have, like, an impending apocalypse, too.
Speaker A:So it's like, how do I.
Speaker A:How do I tell the truth?
Speaker A:Do I let her suffer now or just.
Speaker A:We're all probably gonna die anyway, so.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's like, what do I do here?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, I have a daughter who's about her age in the movie, and I, like, was like, my daughter would understand.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And that's probably what she would say.
Speaker A:That's powerful.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's very powerful.
Speaker C:Sorry to bring down the mood.
Speaker B:No, don't worry.
Speaker A:Oh, dude, you're talking to me, bro.
Speaker A:We just did Midsummer.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Black Swan in the same day.
Speaker C:I listened to the Black Swan one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I did.
Speaker A:It was a rough day, but Mariana was like, woohoo.
Speaker B:And we're just like.
Speaker B:I think we got to talk about how absolutely dirty they did Will Smith for the sequel.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because without even consulting him, they were just like, no, you're not going to be in the movie.
Speaker B:And then on the Internet, there was a timeline of what happened between the two movies, and they literally listed that his character got killed in action.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:They literally were like, no, we're not going to leave this open for you to ever come back at all.
Speaker A:When did the sequel come out again?
Speaker B: Was it: Speaker B:Somewhere around there.
Speaker A:So this is still pretty Chris Rock.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This had nothing to do with that.
Speaker B:This was just out of nowhere.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He just wakes up one day and finds out, oh, I guess they're redoing or they're sequelling Independence Day, and I'm not in it.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And he has shown that he does not mind going back and Reprising old characters like bad boys.
Speaker A:Like, we can't.
Speaker A:We can't bleed that rock enough now.
Speaker B:Michael Bay is still like, yeah, let's keep doing this.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Are they ever going to become good boys?
Speaker A:That's my question.
Speaker A:I don't understand this.
Speaker A:Arc right on, man.
Speaker A:Well, maybe it's kind of weird saying this after we bombed Iran yesterday.
Speaker A:I'm just kind of like, is there.
Speaker A:You should share the podcast.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, You.
Speaker B:Happy Independence Day.
Speaker A:Happy Independence Day.
Speaker A:Celebrate your freedom from alien life forces by sharing this with your grandma.
Speaker A:She has seen some man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Probably survived one of the World wars or Vietnam or Korea, depending on how old your grandma is.
Speaker A:Maybe just the war on terrorism.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Afghanistan one, Afghanistan two.
Speaker A:We are inclusive.
Speaker A:We are inclusive of teen moms here that.
Speaker A:That have been.
Speaker A:Have seen things, man.
Speaker A:Give it.
Speaker A:Send this to a teen mom.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker A:Do you ever just.
Speaker C:That what we're doing?
Speaker A:Do you ever just.
Speaker A:You ever just meet someone, like, someone's kid, like, like maybe your friend, and you're like, I really love my friend, but I think her daughter's auditioning for Teen Mom.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:They're out there.
Speaker A:There's, you know, there's just the aura.
Speaker B:I grew up with a few of those.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm from Arkansas, man.
Speaker B:That's like, I was homeschooled.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Some of those come from growing up in Arkansas.
Speaker A:Teen mom is, like, getting a degree.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's like the equivalent to, like, I mastered in business, you know?
Speaker A:Share Movie wars.
Speaker A:We love y' all.
Speaker A:Happy Independence Day.
Speaker A:Don't choke on the corn.
Speaker A:The question, the question.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:I could not wait to ask this question.
Speaker A:What kind of damage could Will Smith have done to this ship if it was Chris Rock?
Speaker C:Oh, there we go.
Speaker A:Bam.
Speaker C:Would have been out of this world.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Out of it.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, I maybe, like, that was what he was like.
Speaker B:He didn't realize it at the time, but he was just like, I gotta look at someone's face.
Speaker B:Like, this is someone's face.
Speaker B:I'm gonna attack.
Speaker B:I don't know who, but I'll find out one day.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Get my planet's name out of your mouth.
Speaker B:Get my stripper girlfriend's name out your mouth.
Speaker A:Can we just, as three comedians, just talk about that, how that happened?
Speaker A:Do you ever just stop and think, like, Will Smith?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Simulation we were talking about is this simulation?
Speaker A:This broke the simulation.
Speaker A:He walked on stage during the live Oscars and slapped Chris Rock across the face.
Speaker B:But then he got a standing Ovation when he won the Oscar later that night.
Speaker A:And you might be thinking to yourself, why are they just telling us what happened?
Speaker A:We know.
Speaker A:Think about it.
Speaker A:That happened.
Speaker B:It happened.
Speaker A:It's still.
Speaker A:It's just so weird to me.
Speaker B:I mean, he's still banned from the Oscars for another six, seven years.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker B:Like that good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just so weird.
Speaker A:But anyway, yeah.
Speaker A:He would have devastated this ship if it was Chris Rock.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What do you think?
Speaker C:I think he would have to get permission from his wife.
Speaker A:You think you're gonna go kill an alien ship?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:What makes me laugh about the whole situation is the fact that, like, they were separated for years at that point, and he's still simping for her and.
Speaker A:Had an open marriage.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, maybe it's because she looks like an alien.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, it's true.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I don't like talking about women this way, but this is true.
Speaker A:She kind of has the Martian thing.
Speaker A:If she was nicer, I would be like, oh, that's a beautiful bald head.
Speaker A:But no, she looks like a.
Speaker A:A freaking Martian.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I love Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker A:So don't hear me.
Speaker A:Hear me or don't hear this one, but hear me out.
Speaker A:Is this Jeff Goldblum's character from Jurassic Park?
Speaker A:Just cut and paste into this movie.
Speaker A:He's almost the exact.
Speaker A:It's almost like there's some weird.
Speaker A:This is like a universe.
Speaker A:The Jurassic park and Independence Day are part of the same universe because it's.
Speaker A:Jeff Goldblum is the same character.
Speaker B:I think they're twin brothers.
Speaker B:And the one in Jurassic park is the cool one, and then this one is the one who's more successful but not as cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's my theory.
Speaker A:That family experiences a lot of stuff.
Speaker A:Reincarnated dinosaurs and alien attacks.
Speaker A:I mean, what a family, huh?
Speaker C:There is actually a company right now that's reincarnating dinosaurs.
Speaker C:You guys know about this?
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker A:I saw the wolf thing.
Speaker A:I didn't know about this.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Colossal.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:They pivoted to the wolf, but they were.
Speaker C:What they.
Speaker A:Oh, that's.
Speaker A:What they started with was dinosaurs.
Speaker B:They started the DNA of dinosaurs.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Arctic elephants.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Woolly mammoth.
Speaker C:So you can't just go elephant, woolly mammoth.
Speaker C:You have to go elephant.
Speaker C:Arctic elephant.
Speaker C:Woolly mammoth.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just don't understand.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker A:Why do we.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:I'm experiencing this with AI right now.
Speaker A:It's like, why do we just want to do things?
Speaker C:We do, though.
Speaker C:We're stupid.
Speaker C:We're monkeys.
Speaker A:We innovate we're so excited to innovate.
Speaker A:And then bad stuff happens.
Speaker A:We're like, oh, man.
Speaker B:It's almost like everybody made movies about this so many times.
Speaker A:Like, with AI, Everyone was worried that, like, oh, no, factory workers and truck drivers are going to be out of jobs.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:They ruined graphic designers and music and, like, why did they come after us, the creatives?
Speaker A:Like, seriously, go take a factory job, for crying out loud.
Speaker A:Do the right thing.
Speaker B:I'm just getting three weeks.
Speaker A:I'm just kidding.
Speaker B:Six weeks.
Speaker A:I'm just kidding.
Speaker A:I love.
Speaker A:I love the factory workers.
Speaker A:I'm in tech, and I just.
Speaker A:I hate.
Speaker A:What do you think, AI?
Speaker C:It's coming for all of us.
Speaker A:Yeah, all of us.
Speaker C:But I'm positive about it.
Speaker B:If only it could have started with heads of state, then maybe I'd be okay with it taking everyone else's job.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The Congress, Senate.
Speaker A:Yeah, that would be good.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Pretty much any AI is smarter than AOC.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Or Mitch McConnell or Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker C:Dude.
Speaker A:Any of them.
Speaker C:All of them.
Speaker A:Literally every single one of.
Speaker A:Maybe there might be two.
Speaker A:Like, I still love I.
Speaker A:When people ask me why I'm afraid of AI.
Speaker A:Because, like, Renee, my wife, doesn't.
Speaker A:Because she just doesn't keep up with it.
Speaker A:She's like, why are you so afraid of AI?
Speaker A:I'm like, what?
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:It's like, well, did you watch them skewer Mark Zuckerberg when they asked him how the Internet worked?
Speaker A:And you think they can legislate against AI?
Speaker B:The only way that could have been funnier is if Al Gore was the one who'd been asking those questions.
Speaker B:It was like, how's the Internet work?
Speaker B:And he could have been like, well, I mean, you invented it.
Speaker B:You should know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Are we gonna gloss over Mark Zuckerberg drinking that water?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, speaking of alien.
Speaker B:Maybe this is when Mark Zuckerberg came to Earth was during the filming of Independence Day.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He just dropped right out of the.
Speaker B:Ship and he was.
Speaker B:He figured out how to sneak around all the things that were being.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker C:That's accurate.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Me, him, and Elon were all from Andromeda.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, people literally.
Speaker A:I mean, that's one of the biggest things I see on Twitter is that Elon Musk is actually an alien people.
Speaker A:I don't know, man.
Speaker A:At this point, I wouldn't be shocked by anything anymore.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:There's nothing that could pop up in the feed that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They literally.
Speaker A:The military people from the military leaked UFO Footage from government cameras, and people.
Speaker C:Were like, yeah, dude, I interviewed that Ryan Graves guy.
Speaker A:You did?
Speaker C:Yeah, after he went on Rogan show.
Speaker A:He's really interested.
Speaker C:I had a bunch of questions, right?
Speaker C:And so usually I wouldn't go interview someone like him.
Speaker C:Yeah, I had a bunch of questions, and then I watched, like, 10 of his interviews.
Speaker C:They were all the same interview.
Speaker C:He was just given the same interview with, like, all of these different people, Rogan being the most popular.
Speaker C:And I was like, I got questions.
Speaker C:Stop giving the same interview.
Speaker C:And so I wrote him an email.
Speaker C:I was like, bro, I've got a bunch of questions after Rogan.
Speaker C:And you're going on interviews after Rogan, and none of these interviewers are asking you questions based off of what you said on Rogan.
Speaker C:So I made a whole interview, and I said, we're gonna start with the last question you were asked on Rogue, and we're gonna go forward with all of my curiosity.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker C:Super good.
Speaker A:Ice guy.
Speaker A:Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker A:Modern CTO podcast.
Speaker A:Check it out.
Speaker A:On all platforms, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, on all platforms.
Speaker A:It's awesome.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Comedian podcast.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:He does it all.
Speaker A:Rando.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:Yes, Rando.
Speaker A:I was singing Alice in Chains on the way over here.
Speaker A:My voice is a little horse because I was like, into the flood again.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:I should have saved my voice.
Speaker A:I don't sing properly.
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't, you know, got to use the diaphragm.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:You know that thing from the Balls of the Balls.
Speaker A:Go for the balls.
Speaker B:Especially if you're doing Alice in James.
Speaker A:Yeah, Elvis, too.
Speaker A:Yeah, Elvis was all balls.
Speaker B:I mean, he.
Speaker B:Now he was all hips.
Speaker B:Yeah, he sang from his hips.
Speaker A:Not Elvis Costello.
Speaker A:By the way.
Speaker C:Did you guys do the Elvis movie on this show yet?
Speaker A:Not yet.
Speaker A:It's sad.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They also could have called it painkillers.
Speaker A:That would have been a good name for it.
Speaker A:They didn't show the part where he died on the either.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, I know.
Speaker A:That's a good way to go.
Speaker A:Make sure I go that way, will you?
Speaker C:Especially if it's gold.
Speaker A:Yeah, I want to go on the shitter.
Speaker A:I don't care if it's gold.
Speaker A:But even if I don't die on the shitter, assemble me there.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker B:Yeah, that'll be.
Speaker B:That'll be the shrine for your funeral.
Speaker A:Also, don't let my wife pick the jams.
Speaker A:She's gonna pick a bunch of Christian music, which I love Christian music, but I want jams.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I want Rolling Stones.
Speaker B:So she's got better taste than you in movies, but not in music.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:Yeah, you get it a thousand percent.
Speaker C:I'm gonna go to your.
Speaker C:I'm a church clap.
Speaker C:That's what we're going.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:He died on the.
Speaker B:You're getting nothing but shout to the Lord on repeat for the whole.
Speaker A:I love how we go.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:This movie made a lot of money.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:75 million dollar budget, 817 million worldwide.
Speaker B:It's what happens when you name it after America's second most popular holiday.
Speaker C:What's the first one?
Speaker B:Christmas.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:I would assume so.
Speaker B:At least I'm talking just like.
Speaker C:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker C:You didn't bring data.
Speaker C:This is just your feelings.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Midsummer.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:What podcast do you think you're on?
Speaker B:Yeah, we are not on the CTO.
Speaker A:Podcast, although we are very much like them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It was the highest grossing film in 96.
Speaker A:And briefly, it was the number two of all time.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:So for a while it was number two on the list.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Okay, hold on.
Speaker B:Because Titanic would have come out the next year.
Speaker A:Oh, I'm sure that blew it right out of the way.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker B:It made like $2 billion.
Speaker A:People were going to the tight to see Titanic like three and four times on average.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It was insane.
Speaker B:All women.
Speaker A:That has to be the.
Speaker A:The most.
Speaker A:Don't you think that has to be the most repeat theater attendance movie of all time.
Speaker A:Where people were going.
Speaker A:Anchorman was one.
Speaker B:I mean, clearly Avatar.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:People were going, Avatar made $3 billion.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, you can tell when they make the.
Speaker C:Have you been to the Avatar land?
Speaker B:I have, yeah.
Speaker C:Was that where your dad took you?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It was a good time.
Speaker C:Did you ride the Avatar ride?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Both of them.
Speaker C:Isn't that awkward ride ever?
Speaker C:When you're sitting on that thing, you feel like you're getting into like some weird exam or something.
Speaker B:I liked it.
Speaker C:Have you been on it?
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:It puts you in like a weird physical position.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then vibrates.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, it was a great time.
Speaker C:And it's got a blue light, so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, we'll have to do a Movie wars vacation at Disney and we're.
Speaker A:Gonna do a Halloween party.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:That was on the Midsummer episode.
Speaker A:I guess we get a good one for the people.
Speaker A:Yeah, that would actually be really fun.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so I know we were talking about the cgi, but actually this movie broke most records for practical effects.
Speaker A:So you had the.
Speaker A:At the time was the most use of miniature work ever.
Speaker B:In a film, which unfortunately that probably was.
Speaker B:The part that didn't age as well was how much miniature work they did.
Speaker B:It was very obvious.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Especially when the city's exploding.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, you can see them there.
Speaker A:But also they used real scale too.
Speaker A:They used a 30 foot.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:They actually built a 30 foot alien destroyer ship.
Speaker A:A 12 foot mothership city block.
Speaker A:So they did build a lot of stuff too.
Speaker A:It's just weird how they actually did go practical a lot.
Speaker B:But it's still usually practical 90s because you go.
Speaker B:I mean, it really just depends because there's.
Speaker B:Now that I'm older and have seen kind of how the older movies did the miniatures, you can tell, especially with explosions when it's a miniature, there's just a different way that fire reacts when.
Speaker C:You'Re just a little bit smaller.
Speaker B:Yeah, but it looks smaller and in weird slow motion.
Speaker B:Like it's, it's very interesting.
Speaker B:But I mean, no, the 90s were, were chock full of miniatures.
Speaker B:Did you know Phantom Menace had the most practical sets or practical like miniatures of any Star wars movie?
Speaker B:Even the original one ones.
Speaker B:So like the 90s, that was still that.
Speaker B:That age where they were trying to figure out how to meld the two.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's great.
Speaker A:And you said the slow motion thing, that's where I saw it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:To me it was like the fire in the city looked blurry.
Speaker B:Ish.
Speaker A:But people were moving in slow motion away from it.
Speaker A:But the fire was kind of moving in a different way.
Speaker A:I was like, that was so obvious.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's, it's because.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean there's.
Speaker B:Okay, there's a great scene in, in Lord of the Rings Two Towers where they released the dam to flood Eisengard.
Speaker B:That whole scene where the river's flooding was 100% practical.
Speaker B:Other than the trees running around.
Speaker B:Those were clearly animated.
Speaker B:But like when you watch it, it's unfortunately one of those things where it's like, oh, this is just a slow motion small scale water feature that's happening.
Speaker B:This is not actually on the like 500 foot scale that they want you to think.
Speaker B:And you can even tell because some of the drops of water are just too big for the scale.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But it's like it's that.
Speaker B:That ended up looking better.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:It's like if you know what you're looking for, it's actually really jarring to see how many small scale things they used to use.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:This movie almost looked a lot different.
Speaker A:Kevin Spacey was going to be the president before Pullman, and Ethan Hawke was going to do Captain Hiller instead of Will Smith.
Speaker A:That was the original.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I mean, I could accept that.
Speaker A:I am officially.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna say I'm the chairman.
Speaker A:I'm the vice chairman of the Ethan Hawke fan club these days.
Speaker A:Because early on, like, I didn't necessarily think he was any great.
Speaker A:And then, like now I'm like, wow, he's great.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's done so much great work.
Speaker B:We've done enough of his movies that it's like.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, wow, he really does have range.
Speaker B:I remember watching the before trilogy, like, I didn't realize he was in it.
Speaker B:I didn't even know what it was.
Speaker B:And my buddy was like, oh, they're playing all three of them at the Bell.
Speaker B:Course we went and watched him and he's fantastic in all three of those.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Before the devil knows your dad, we did the Northman.
Speaker A:Just incredible.
Speaker A:What do you think would that have been?
Speaker A:What kind of movie would that have been?
Speaker C:Kevin Spacey was that somebody would have got sexually harassed.
Speaker A:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker A:Somebody.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Statute of limitations.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He would.
Speaker C:He would have had some 15 year old boy assistant or something.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:As express secretary.
Speaker A:Talk about someone that.
Speaker A:That needs a prison.
Speaker A:Probably can't get one now.
Speaker A:But anytime he like tries to defend himself, he just done so much worse.
Speaker B:He should stop defending himself.
Speaker C:He should lean into it.
Speaker A:He just.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think that's what he's doing.
Speaker A:And he needs to drop because we're also doing Superman Returns with Dustin Chafes the next week.
Speaker A:So I had to watch that piece of flaming shit.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And he's Lex Luthor in that.
Speaker A:And just like now that I've watched more of his work, he's always.
Speaker A:What's his name in House of Cards again?
Speaker A:I can't remember.
Speaker B:Frank Underwood.
Speaker A:He's always Frank Underwood.
Speaker A:Even when he popped on camera to like defend himself with these harassment laws, he's like, it's Kevin Spacey.
Speaker A:I'm like, stop doing the Underwood thing.
Speaker A:Can you just talk?
Speaker C:I think somebody wrote that part for him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:They're just like, this is his personality.
Speaker C:Let's write this for him.
Speaker C:I don't know if House of Cards is written for him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:But it sounds like it was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What a creep.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, clearly Frank Underwood was supposed to be some sort of mixture of Bill Clinton and If you're a pervert.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:And you're successful.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And you're an actor, you're Definitely going to hire some producer to make a show that's like, your fantasy.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I think that's what he did.
Speaker B:Why do you think the logo of Nickelodeon was afoot for so long?
Speaker A:Why is that?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Oh, I don't know that story.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:That's the whole documentary docu series that was on HBO about how the guy was, like, a foot fetishist.
Speaker B:It was doing weird shit to make, like, Ariana Grande put her foot in her mouth on camera.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:No, 100%.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:I have that queued up to watch, but I just.
Speaker A:I have kids.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's like, wait till I go to bed.
Speaker A:I'm just not ready.
Speaker A:I'm just not ready to watch it.
Speaker C:You just ruined Rugrats for me, bro.
Speaker A:Dude, Nickelodeon was.
Speaker A:It was debauched.
Speaker B:It was weird.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Keenan's still doing well, Doug.
Speaker C:Funny.
Speaker A:What happened to Cal?
Speaker A:Where is Kel?
Speaker A:Keenan's everywhere is Cal.
Speaker A:Dad.
Speaker B:Who knows?
Speaker A:Died of a burger overdose.
Speaker A:Remember the Good Burger?
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:But yeah, Home of the Good Burger, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And welcome to Good Burger.
Speaker A:Yeah, that movie was.
Speaker A:That movie is funny at the time.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And like I said earlier, like you said, what the hell is that smell?
Speaker A:And over half of Will Smith's lines were improv.
Speaker A:Welcome to Earth.
Speaker A:His triumphant welcome to Earth was improv as well.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker C:What about when the dude at the end, he's like, hello, boys, I'm back.
Speaker C:And he drives the spaceship up?
Speaker A:Or his.
Speaker A:Oh, Randy Quaid.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I literally could not shake him from Christmas vacation.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was like, the guy from Christmas vacation is gonna save.
Speaker A:Save civilization.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:He was my favorite character for sure.
Speaker C:Was he really?
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:He was pretty good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just love Quaid.
Speaker A:I just think he's.
Speaker A:He's just hilarious.
Speaker C:So the absentee father that's an alcoholic.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's like what you identified with.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:We should talk more.
Speaker A:A lot like my dad.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just me pursuing affirmation from a father figure that doesn't want me.
Speaker C:Welcome to my life.
Speaker A:You're positive I'm abandoned.
Speaker B:I'm just not.
Speaker C:Maybe that's why I like Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker B:Came to my mind.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:My dad's a nerd.
Speaker C:So, like, maybe that's why I like Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:My dad was a narcotics officer.
Speaker A:That's probably why I love.
Speaker C:He did what he loved.
Speaker A:Yeah, he did.
Speaker C:He stole it from people and then did it.
Speaker A:They say don't use your own supply, but most of them do, so.
Speaker B:My dad was a financial advisor.
Speaker B:Maybe that's why I like money so much.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And a bodybuilder.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Every time I come over, you oil me up.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker C:And then watch some Nickelodeon.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Welcome to Movie Wars.
Speaker A:He doesn't really oil me up.
Speaker B:Not on camera.
Speaker A:Not on camera.
Speaker A:This is funny.
Speaker A:So they were filming these UFO UFO scenes.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And they had helicopters in the sky.
Speaker A:They were doing all this stuff, and apparently they didn't give any of the neighborhoods or any of the surrounding.
Speaker A:Apparently, they had 150 panicked residents that were calling the police because they thought there was an actual UFO in the sky.
Speaker B:Amazing.
Speaker A:And it turned out they were just doing filming and lights and all the crazy stuff for the movie.
Speaker A:So they.
Speaker A:The one, Roland Dimmerich, the director, said we probably should have given them a heads up.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, yeah.
Speaker B:That's like.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I do also, like, I love the 90s because it was still, like, the end of the Wild west of Hollywood where, like, you could still do some kind of questionable and get away with it.
Speaker C:I want to.
Speaker C:In a movie, I want to see them rob a bank under the context of they're filming a movie scene.
Speaker C:So they'll play filming in progress, you know, make it look like a movie is being filmed.
Speaker C:So when actual cops show up, there's, like, roadblocks.
Speaker C:It's like filming in progress, and then you can just get that bank job done.
Speaker A:Well, when they filmed Heat, Michael Mann took Val Kilmer and Robert De Niro and the whole crew, two banks, they were casing, like they were learning how to actually case banks.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they were actually.
Speaker A:All of a sudden, De Niro is just in your bank.
Speaker A:Like, how do I rob this thing.
Speaker C:Called Danny Ocean?
Speaker B:Crazy.
Speaker A:Call Danny Ocean.
Speaker A:And so, you know, sometimes the military likes to get involved with movies.
Speaker A:Sometimes our government, they did it with Top Gun because, you know, they thought it was like a nice subliminal recruitment tool.
Speaker B:Subliminal?
Speaker A:Subliminal.
Speaker B:Beat you across the face.
Speaker A:Well, I wanted to be a Chippendales dancer.
Speaker A:After I watched that, I didn't want to go in the military.
Speaker A:I wanted to get lathered up and play some volleyball.
Speaker B:He likes getting oiled up.
Speaker B:Apparently.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker C:There was a miniature in that movie, too.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:I can't find it when I need to take a piss.
Speaker B:He's got a ball.
Speaker B:Gina.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Micro.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker C:I always talk about Tom Cruz.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Something.
Speaker B:And here I thought we were just roasting Kyle's penis.
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker A:As we often do.
Speaker A:So the US military was going to fully cooperate with this movie, but they.
Speaker A:It was only if they remove any mention of Area 51.
Speaker A:And because they refused to take Area 51, the Pentagon withdrew all support from the film.
Speaker C:That's okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They made a butt ton of money anyways.
Speaker A:Do we need them?
Speaker A:Like, do we need them in the film?
Speaker A:It's like you wouldn't eat at a government sponsored steakhouse.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's a weird flex too, because once it became common knowledge, they definitely moved to stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Shall we blow up the White House?
Speaker A:We probably shouldn't say that.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:There's a.
Speaker B:There's a whole faction of this country who'd be like, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker A:Yeah, we save the president.
Speaker A:Or shall the President save us?
Speaker C:They're.
Speaker C:They're busy practicing in California.
Speaker A:Let's seek our independence.
Speaker A:Yes, let's do it.
Speaker A:And yes, if you dig it, if you like it, kick the tires and light the fires.
Speaker A:I like that one.
Speaker B:And then tires.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What was that?
Speaker B:So tires.
Speaker A:Tires.
Speaker A:You can say tires or if you don't like it.
Speaker A:No, negative.
Speaker A:Up yours.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B:I like that.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:Up yours.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There was.
Speaker A:There were some good lines in here.
Speaker A:I mean, there probably is better ones, but those are the ones I like.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker A:Top Bill.
Speaker A:Cast.
Speaker A:Let's go to the cash, shall we?
Speaker A:So the highest paid three actors slash actresses.
Speaker A:Well, no actresses.
Speaker A:Will Smith.
Speaker A:Bill Pullman.
Speaker A:Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think they all did a great job.
Speaker B:Tires.
Speaker B:100%.
Speaker B:Like Will Smith, as we were saying, is just.
Speaker B:They just come off of like two of the hottest roles of his career right before this.
Speaker B:So I think he was just on fire doing his thing.
Speaker B:Jeff Goldblum is Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker B:He hasn't changed since the 80s, and I don't think he ever will until he's dead.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Bill Pullman, I'm not super familiar with most of his other work, but I think he played a very.
Speaker B:I liked the aspect of him being with his daughter the whole time.
Speaker B:I think that brought a different aspect to a presidential character than we've seen in most other movies.
Speaker A:So Bill pullman, think early 90s white love interest from romcoms.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker A:That is Bill Pullman.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker A:Until this movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I've only seen him in this and space balls.
Speaker A:So, yeah, he's.
Speaker C:I did think that line that he had about when he was on the phone with his wife and he's like, I'm in bed with this Burnett.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I laughed because.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker C:It's definitely out of context.
Speaker C:Super pedophile.
Speaker C:Yeah, but.
Speaker C:But in context, if you have kids, you've made that joke.
Speaker B:Oh, 100.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, I thought.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think everyone did a great job there.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Tires.
Speaker A:What do you think?
Speaker A:Kick the tires, not the fires.
Speaker A:Are you going up yours.
Speaker C:Up yours.
Speaker A:You didn't like it?
Speaker C:Oh, I don't know.
Speaker C:Are we picking lines?
Speaker C:What are we doing?
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:Those are our affirmative or negative.
Speaker C:I thought up yours.
Speaker C:When he was driving the spaceship.
Speaker A:That's our negative.
Speaker A:So if you didn't like it.
Speaker A:Sorry, we.
Speaker A:I should explain that better.
Speaker A:So for.
Speaker A:And I'll edit this whenever we.
Speaker A:We just.
Speaker A:Instead of saying just yes or just no to a category, we pick.
Speaker A:We pick a thing from the movie and assign it to it.
Speaker A:So, yeah, up yours is no.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:And then kick the tires is.
Speaker A:And light the fire.
Speaker A:You can just say tires.
Speaker A:But that's a yes.
Speaker A:I did like it.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:You want to ask me again?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What do you think?
Speaker A:Top Bill Cast.
Speaker C:Kick the tires.
Speaker C:Kick the tires.
Speaker A:You like it?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Great movie.
Speaker C:I'll watch it again.
Speaker C:I'll watch it next year.
Speaker A:You want to watch it right now?
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker A:We got a tv.
Speaker C:I can do that.
Speaker C:And then I can do Allen at Christmas time.
Speaker C:And that's my seasonal movies.
Speaker A:Yeah, I love that.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I went Up Yours and with.
Speaker B:Just the three of them.
Speaker A:Just the three.
Speaker B:What is wrong with you?
Speaker A:Sorry, dude.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, man.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I hate to say it.
Speaker A:Ever since Will Smith hit Chris Rock.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I am so team Chris Rock.
Speaker A:Sure, I grew up.
Speaker A:There was no reason for him to hit him.
Speaker A:And I know that this has nothing to do with it, but every.
Speaker A:Ever since, any time I watch Will Smith, I just can't stop thinking about it.
Speaker A:I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker A:But anyway, I just.
Speaker B:Every now and then, you say something that just completely destroys any legitimacy we have with this podcast.
Speaker A:I know, I know, but.
Speaker A:Okay, I'll get real.
Speaker A:I'll get real.
Speaker A:Bill Pullman, not a great president.
Speaker A:Even though this is not a typical president.
Speaker A:One of the worst.
Speaker A:And I actually have a category for this, but just awful president choice.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A:Jeff Goldblum was great.
Speaker A:Although I do think he cut and paste himself out of Jurassic park here.
Speaker A:I just see zero difference between the two characters.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:It's a classic.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:It's Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker A:We like it.
Speaker B:Doesn't play characters.
Speaker B:He plays Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker A:He does.
Speaker A:I know, but it was just way too similar.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:Will Smith.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:He's overstayed his welcome in my life.
Speaker C:Does he really?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:The only movie.
Speaker C:You don't want to get jiggy with it.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:The only movie that I've gone back to and there's.
Speaker A:There's two movies that I really enjoyed that I went back to.
Speaker A:I like the first Bad Boys because we did it for the PO.
Speaker A:And then I like Enemy of the State, but he's really first Men in.
Speaker C:Black when he's running robot.
Speaker A:No, I hated that movie anyway.
Speaker A:I didn't like that.
Speaker A:And that was pre Chris Rock.
Speaker C:I wasn't a huge fan of iro.
Speaker C:I liked the story, but as far as.
Speaker C:Yeah, like the idea.
Speaker C:But the execution of it, I thought was mediocre.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, being in technology.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You really like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That movie's incredible.
Speaker C:You're excited about having a robot wife.
Speaker B:Shockingly.
Speaker B:Still holds up.
Speaker A:More like you robot.
Speaker C:He wants a.
Speaker C:He wants a robot wife.
Speaker A:Yeah, you should.
Speaker A:You should get a robot wife.
Speaker C:Did you see back there in his kitchen?
Speaker A:Woo.
Speaker C:He had a Roomba with some lingerie.
Speaker B:Don't have a Roomba.
Speaker C:And an air fryer strapped on top.
Speaker C:Air fryer cooks and cleans.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:What did they call it in Parks and Rec?
Speaker A:Dj.
Speaker A:DJ Roomba.
Speaker C:Roomba.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I wish.
Speaker A:I wish I just.
Speaker A:And I like Bill Pullman, but I really just don't understand that.
Speaker B:You're just a hater.
Speaker B:You still lose, so it's fine.
Speaker A:And listen, I know Will Smith.
Speaker A:I know Will Smith is legitimately gifted.
Speaker A:And he has done.
Speaker A:He's done a lot of work that has deviated from his comedic.
Speaker A:Like, I know he's done.
Speaker A:He's done a lot of emotional work and I think it's great.
Speaker A:And I think Enemy of the State's fantastic still.
Speaker A:But I just.
Speaker A:He overstayed his welcome to me in this.
Speaker A:Too much cheese.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But it doesn't matter.
Speaker A:You guys.
Speaker A:You guys won the category.
Speaker B:Yes, we did.
Speaker A:One to zero.
Speaker A:We are kicking tires and lighting fires.
Speaker B:The beards got it over here.
Speaker A:The beards on the emerald couch.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Supporting.
Speaker B:We needed to bring some more testosterone to this podcast.
Speaker A:Oh, what about the hat?
Speaker A:They made fun of my birthday hat.
Speaker A:I got an Ecuadorian straw hat because I saw.
Speaker B:Walt, it is your birthday.
Speaker A:Because I saw.
Speaker C:Oh, happy birthday.
Speaker A:It's my birthday.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:38 years old.
Speaker A:Can't wait for this whole thing to be over.
Speaker A:This life.
Speaker A:That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker C:Just got really dark.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:60s, about all I got in me.
Speaker A:Walton Goggins wore one of these, and I'm.
Speaker A:I've been just crushing on the man.
Speaker A:And so I got one for my birthday.
Speaker A:But they, but everyone's made fun of it so far, so I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know if it's because Walton Goggins can pull one off, but I'm gonna sit it right here like a chotchki.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker B:I like a better hairline than Walton Goggins, so you've got that going for you.
Speaker A:Illustrious Mary McConnell is Marilyn Whitmore.
Speaker A:Judd Hirsch is Julius Levinson.
Speaker B:Category.
Speaker A:Would this be supporting cast?
Speaker B:Sometimes I have to keep him on.
Speaker A:Yes, you got to keep me on track.
Speaker A:Robert Loggia as General William Graham.
Speaker A:Look.
Speaker A:Oh, Randy Quaid.
Speaker A:I'm just gonna go for the big ones here.
Speaker A:Harvey Feinstein is our guy.
Speaker B:What an almost unfortunate name.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:One letter off from being a rapist.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So many stains.
Speaker A:And then James Rebhorn who's like in every movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Sometimes I'm just like, he's in everything.
Speaker A:And I will.
Speaker A:I think I'm gonna stop there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:This is actually going to be a up yours for me.
Speaker B:I honestly, other than Judd Hirsch, kind of hated the entire supporting cast.
Speaker B:Like, it just was not good for me.
Speaker B:That, that.
Speaker B:See, that's another thing that's like the top three, I thought all did a great job.
Speaker B:Everyone else just about was just kind of there.
Speaker B:Judd Hirsch is the only one that I thought stood out in a good way.
Speaker B:We talked about the guy earlier who sounded like he'd been chain smoking cigarettes since he was 4.
Speaker B:Like, he was more distracting than anything.
Speaker B:He didn't even make a good, like, reporter kind of guy.
Speaker B:He didn't.
Speaker B:He didn't strike me as any type of authority figure in that he just came across as a whiny little.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it's enough years for me.
Speaker B:I didn't think the supporting cast did that great of a job.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I would say up yours.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, they're forgettable.
Speaker C:I don't even know half the people you're talking about.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:The main characters did great.
Speaker C:I enjoyed them quite a bit.
Speaker B:But yeah, we should.
Speaker B:We should give a shout out, though, to the child actor who played the daughter.
Speaker B:I do think she did a really good job.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Conveyed a lot of emotion through the little bit of time she had on screen.
Speaker A:I agree.
Speaker B:As we've talked about many times before, it is so hard to get good.
Speaker A:Acting out of child actors until like four years ago.
Speaker B:Yeah, even then.
Speaker B:Yeah, even then they still were going older to play younger.
Speaker A:They could do that.
Speaker A:And even now there's like 20.
Speaker A:There's like 20 that you can pull from, that are great actors.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:One to one didn't give your opinion.
Speaker A:Oh, I didn't.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Bad.
Speaker A:Up yours.
Speaker A:Everybody felt like a cookie cutout.
Speaker A:To me, I just, there's, I, I really do think this, and this happened a lot in the 90s.
Speaker A:They just were leaning into the visuals.
Speaker A:And at the time, even though we say didn't age well at the time, I remember when this came out, it was a big deal.
Speaker A:It was a cultural thing.
Speaker A:It was a cultural phenomenon.
Speaker A:Everyone was freaking out.
Speaker A:People were going multiple times at the theater to see this movie.
Speaker A:And yes, at the time, visually, it was very compelling.
Speaker A:But I feel like it was really easy in the theater to overlook some of the acting stuff because it was just such a visual feast at the time.
Speaker A:And I just think they didn't think, like, we're just not going to direct actors here.
Speaker A:I just don't feel like Roland Emmerich is like, we're doing, it's funny because we're doing the Patriot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:After this.
Speaker A:And he also directed that.
Speaker A:We didn't even intentionally do that.
Speaker B:Completely unintentional.
Speaker A:Unintentional.
Speaker A:He directed both of these movies, but.
Speaker B:He also directed Stargate, which is one of my favorite sci fi movies.
Speaker B:And I, I think comparing this and Stargate, Stargate blows this out of the water.
Speaker A:Totally.
Speaker A:Stargate was so good.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker B:And it spawned two really good and one mediocre TV show.
Speaker B:Like, it's such a good property.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think, I think they're trying to come back into the flood again.
Speaker A:You never know with me.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Writing Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich now.
Speaker A:Roland Emmerich, you said Stargate.
Speaker A:He also has a lot of writing credits.
Speaker A:Moonfall.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, Dark Horse.
Speaker A:It says Stargate Universe.
Speaker A:Oh, was that the TV series?
Speaker B:The TV series, yeah.
Speaker A:2012.
Speaker A:Stargate Atlantis, 10,000 BC.
Speaker B:This dude, he's had a crazy career.
Speaker A:Day after tomorrow.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's had a very interesting career.
Speaker B:He's had a couple really great ones.
Speaker B:Stargate, obviously being one.
Speaker B:I think we'll talk about this.
Speaker B:But the Patriot, I, I, I think holds up.
Speaker B:But yeah, then you have some out of nowhere ones like Day After Tomorrow.
Speaker B:I hated that movie.
Speaker B:That movie's so bad.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But it was also on the tail, like the disaster film craze.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:But there was like a two year period where like they were.
Speaker A:There was like three disaster films a month coming out.
Speaker B:But there, There were some good ones that came out during that time.
Speaker B:Twister is fantastic.
Speaker C:My wife is deathly afraid of tornadoes.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker A:So she doesn't like that movie.
Speaker C:So I put it on.
Speaker A:On.
Speaker A:Yeah, put it on.
Speaker B:I've heard nothing but bad things about 10,000 BC.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like half the stuff he's come out with recently, I just feel like is like.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:It's only.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, he had a couple of bangers.
Speaker A:There near the beginning and he kept getting work.
Speaker A:Yeah, he has a lot of work on here, both as a director and a writer.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But what do you think?
Speaker A:Writing?
Speaker B:You know, I have a feeling that half of the good lines were just Will Smith improvising.
Speaker B:So I feel like when an actor feels the need to improvise that much probably means the script they were handed wasn't that great.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So for me, it's an up yours.
Speaker B:Yeah, some good moments, but I again, I feel like the majority of those were not on paper.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What do you think?
Speaker C:Look, I'm just gonna judge it on the by.
Speaker C:On the output.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker C:Just output.
Speaker C:I liked it.
Speaker A:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker B:Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker A:I love that you love this.
Speaker A:I love your positivity.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:No, I.
Speaker A:I also went up yours.
Speaker A:I just for me, the writing means.
Speaker A:For me, in this case, I just needed a character story.
Speaker A:Something to pop off the page to me, to kind of pull me in, but no one.
Speaker A:And again, this might go back to just the leaning into the visuals, but like, there's just no, she's not a character in this movie doing anything compelling.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's the aliens.
Speaker A:The aliens and the explosions are the only compelling things in between.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker C:I wish they would have talked with them more.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I wanted more alien interaction.
Speaker B:I also feel like there were too many B and C stories.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, it was all over the place.
Speaker C:What was going on with the.
Speaker C:The C story was like when the stripper found the downed helicopter with the First Lady.
Speaker C:With the first lady and then she just goes and dies.
Speaker C:I was like, that could have been.
Speaker A:And it just so happens that he.
Speaker A:Her husband is with the President.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:How did.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's just mathematically makes sense.
Speaker A:That's got The.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:You know, like, how there's like thousands of medical TV shows like Grey's Anatomy.
Speaker A:That's that level of writing.
Speaker A:Because every.
Speaker A:Every.
Speaker A:Like, I watched Grey's Anatomy with my wife a long time ago.
Speaker A:Every show was just massive coincidences upon massive co.
Speaker A:Like a plane crashing into the hospital.
Speaker A:You know, it's just like, this is that level of writing for that to happen to me.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker C:The bodies just dump right into the room.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And then like, just.
Speaker A:Just like all of a sudden, like, let's just introduce the president to a hidden program.
Speaker A:Know.
Speaker A:It was just like, all right, fine, we'll just show you the thing.
Speaker B:Also, how do you not tell the president about Area 51?
Speaker B:Like, that doesn't even go with any of the real conspiracy theories that are out there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Everyone's like, no, the president absolutely knows.
Speaker B:Like, why are we suddenly acting like, oh, I've never heard of this?
Speaker C:I would say that guy that's down there in the basement, that.
Speaker A:Long hair.
Speaker C:Yeah, long hair, dude.
Speaker C:I think he nailed his character.
Speaker A:He was great.
Speaker C:Because I've met some dudes that work in, like, skunk works type projects, and they are like that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker C:Oh, they're weird.
Speaker A:I'm glad you brought him up.
Speaker A:I really did.
Speaker A:I did like him.
Speaker A:He was also funny on his own.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Very funny.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I wish I just wanted something compelling like, I could have just like.
Speaker A:I don't need.
Speaker A:Because I am an action fan.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I don't need much.
Speaker A:Arnold Schwarzenegger is my favorite actor.
Speaker A:I don't need much, but as a.
Speaker A:From a writing perspective, I just needed a little more.
Speaker B:Should have been about 30 minutes shorter.
Speaker B:Oh, and it would have been really good.
Speaker A:Yes, Good point.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They could have knocked.
Speaker A:There's a lot of stuff they could have knocked out of this movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Especially when you're not caring about anybody.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're just like, I don't care about any of these.
Speaker A:Even the kids.
Speaker A:I'm like.
Speaker A:I'm like, I hope.
Speaker A:I hope they're okay, but I really don't care about these kids.
Speaker C:Well, he did a good job in Patriot because Patriot was a series of making you fall in love with them.
Speaker C:And then.
Speaker A:Yes, that's gonna be interesting doing that after this.
Speaker C:He learned from his mistakes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Maybe then he made 10, 000 BC.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, he got.
Speaker A:He got his own set of criticism for the Patriot.
Speaker A:There's a lot of controversy around that movie, I'm sure.
Speaker A:One to two.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker A:Directing Roland Emreck, you know, again, Like.
Speaker B:I said earlier, I think he's had some.
Speaker B:Some major hits, and I think he's had some.
Speaker B:Some weird misses.
Speaker B:And it's like, in context, I can understand how this one was a smash, yet I can understand why this made 800 plus million dollars in the 90s, which I think, accounting for inflation, would be somewhere around $1.5 billion today.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:I totally understand.
Speaker B:Seeing all this in the theater at the time would have been insane, I think.
Speaker B:And knowing that he also wrote the script with Dean Devlin, which.
Speaker B:I love Dean Devlin.
Speaker B:He's produced a lot of incredible TV shows, a lot of great movies, Stargate included.
Speaker B:But, like, I don't know, I think a lot of the choices he made just didn't add up to as great of a movie as this could have been.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's a squeak under up yours for me.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a 4.9 up yours for me.
Speaker A:Agreed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What do you think?
Speaker C:I don't know enough about the scale.
Speaker B:Oh, our squeak underscale is like, I.
Speaker C:Don'T know enough about this director.
Speaker A:Here's the movies he's made.
Speaker A: White house, down, anonymous,: Speaker C:I like Day After Tomorrow.
Speaker A:Godzilla.
Speaker C:Patriot, Godzilla.
Speaker B:Oh, he did make the worst Godzilla movie.
Speaker A:The Matthew Broderick one.
Speaker A:Is that the Matthew Broderick Godzilla?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Enraging.
Speaker A:His machine had a song in that movie.
Speaker B:I think so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, you know, in terms of what he's.
Speaker A:Oh, he did Universal.
Speaker C:Go ahead and say that.
Speaker C:He sucks.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:We'll just be like, he's not good.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's not good.
Speaker A:You love this movie, though.
Speaker C:Sorry, I want to apologize.
Speaker B:Well, Joel specifically apologizes to Roland, who definitely watches this podcast.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Sorry, Roland.
Speaker A:He's making a Stargate reboot right now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Is he really?
Speaker B:I'm excited about.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, I think for this.
Speaker A:For me, this category comes down to choices.
Speaker A:You know, to me, that what I grade a director on is like, what kind of choices did they make and not make?
Speaker A:And here is just like you said, it could have been 30 minutes less.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think the writing was never elevated.
Speaker A:There was nothing.
Speaker A:There was nothing to that.
Speaker A:He did that.
Speaker A:Revived the film beside it just being a CGI fest and being a visual spectacle.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But he did.
Speaker C:As a director, if it's about choices, he did Let Will improv, which made the movie true.
Speaker C:That was a choice.
Speaker C:You have to make it is true.
Speaker B:I just don't think it outweighed the.
Speaker B:The bad choices.
Speaker C:So, like, we'll say that the writers sucked and they wrote a bad script, but the director is not the writer.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:I mean, he is one of the writers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He wrote it too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He might have known it was.
Speaker A:Was bad.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And, you know, that's up to the director.
Speaker A:You know, whether or not you allow improv.
Speaker A:You know, we.
Speaker A:We've reviewed directors on this show where they're very rigid.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, like before.
Speaker A:You know, before the devil knows you're dead.
Speaker A:That wasn't necessarily because Sidney Lumet was.
Speaker A:Was strict.
Speaker A:He just.
Speaker A:They had a very specific vision and they didn't improv at all for that movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:They're just.
Speaker A:They're just certain films, certain directors where also some directors just can't handle it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, like, I think of a Coppola and a Scorsese, even though you don't associate them with improv.
Speaker A:But the reason Pesci was so wild in Goodfellows, because Martin Scorsese said, I'm gonna let Joe Pesci go wild.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he became the most memorable part of the movie.
Speaker B:But see, that's the thing is, is there's a difference between hiring an actor like Joe Pesci who, you know is capable of playing with the script, and.
Speaker B:And whether or not he makes it better, he still is able to play with it and give you options.
Speaker B:But when I hear that Will Smith is improvising half of his dialogue and not just like, oh, he had a really good line.
Speaker B:Then he came to me, was like, I want to say this.
Speaker B:I was like, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:When I hear that he's improvising the majority of his dialogue, it just to me speaks of laziness.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, you didn't have a good product.
Speaker B:And so you're like, eh, whatever.
Speaker B:Just say whatever you want.
Speaker B:I don't care.
Speaker A:And Will Smith's star was growing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And that was his reputation on Bad Boys.
Speaker A:And that.
Speaker A:That was kind of the reputation he was getting as kind of a comedic, because he very much.
Speaker A:At this point, we're still not viewing Will Smith as a dramatic actor.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that was.
Speaker B:He's the Fresh Prince.
Speaker A:And that would eventually happen.
Speaker A:Eventually you would start looking at him as purely a dramatic actor in a lot of ways.
Speaker B:But here, then he made After Earth.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And then he punched Chris Rock.
Speaker B:Slapped.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Slap.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker B:Open hand.
Speaker A:Get Will Smith out of my mouth.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:One to three.
Speaker A:Did I Show you my hat.
Speaker A:One to three.
Speaker A:We're not going to get our independence here, baby.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What's in front of us?
Speaker A:Cinematography, production design, sound, costumes, editing, stunts.
Speaker B:So for me, this is even just barely a squeak over.
Speaker B:I do think there's a lot of good on the visual side of things.
Speaker B:I do think probably 50.
Speaker B:50.
Speaker B:The miniatures worked.
Speaker B:Some of them didn't work.
Speaker B:But the fact that.
Speaker B:But the spaceships themselves are actual miniatures.
Speaker B:It looked dope as hell.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:Any.
Speaker B:Any of the big wide shots before they blew up New York.
Speaker B:Like the wide shots of the city with the ship over it.
Speaker B:Incredible.
Speaker B:Then you have moments like when they blow up the city, it just.
Speaker B:It just doesn't look good.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But it is.
Speaker B:It is a squeak over for me.
Speaker B:I did appreciate it.
Speaker B:So it is a.
Speaker B:Tires for me.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:But I like the squeak.
Speaker B:There's a lot of.
Speaker B:There's a lot that could have been better.
Speaker C:I loved it.
Speaker C:I think for 96.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker C:We're judging it now in the future.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I think 496.
Speaker C:It was top of its game.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, I.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go this week, too.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:Even though I don't think it's held up.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:And I think there are movies that came out before this one that had better visuals that were kind of going for the same thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I also am a sucker for the nostalgia of the.
Speaker A:The giant blockbuster, which we just don't get a lot of anymore.
Speaker A:Ms.
Speaker A:Possible is one of the few that have done very well recently.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We just don't have these.
Speaker A:And I miss them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so I do remember.
Speaker A:And this is where.
Speaker A:This is one of the few cases where nostalgia will win out for me.
Speaker A:I just remember how big of a deal this movie was.
Speaker A:So even though they haven't held up at the time, people were flipping out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:People were flipping out because they didn't quite know that Will Smith was this comedic genius in a lot of ways, which he was a lot of people, you know.
Speaker A:And this will also.
Speaker A:This also made the alien genre a little accessible.
Speaker A:And this is maybe one of the reasons I can admit that I have a hard time liking this movie.
Speaker A:Because I love Alien Aliens.
Speaker A:Prometheus.
Speaker A:I love that universe and Predator.
Speaker A:Those are my kind of aliens.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Those are my.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I don't do scary.
Speaker A:See?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A: I think Alien: Speaker A:Master.
Speaker B:Masterful.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Masterpiece of horror.
Speaker A:Like, even though it's Alien masterpiece of horror, it does make it hard for me to appreciate this Because I just.
Speaker A:These aliens, to me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I have a category for it, but I'm just kind of like, what's.
Speaker A:What's going on with these aliens?
Speaker A:But I appreciate the blockbuster.
Speaker A:I love the phenomena that it was.
Speaker A:So I am going to give it a squeak over.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So two to three.
Speaker A:So this thing ain't over.
Speaker A:Yeah, this thing ain't over.
Speaker B:We could.
Speaker B:We could squeak it over.
Speaker A:We could.
Speaker A:Or scotch it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, that's the 79 to 8.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:We have a fake number scale on this.
Speaker C:I love it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Then we have the ton.
Speaker A:Ton scale.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is my scale.
Speaker A:Really important.
Speaker A:He has the sco.
Speaker A:Squeak.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Extra.
Speaker A:We're in the bro categories.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker A:I call this category Extra.
Speaker A:Extra terrestrial.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:This is going back to what I just said.
Speaker A:Aliens just in film.
Speaker A:How are we ranking these?
Speaker A:Are these.
Speaker A:Are these up there in the world of.
Speaker A:Because think about it.
Speaker A:We got Alien.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The Ridley Scott, James Cameron world.
Speaker A:Mars Attacks.
Speaker A:Oh, Mars Attack.
Speaker A:Because they had the.
Speaker A:The aliens had their brains and, like, the glasses.
Speaker B:I didn't know he was in that movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Jack Nicholson.
Speaker A:He's the president.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, so just, you know, think of the aliens, and then you have other ones that are older ones.
Speaker B:You know, I mean, this.
Speaker B:That is a solid question because I.
Speaker B:I think in, like, when you're watching the movie, the execution of the aliens is pretty good.
Speaker B:Unfortunately, though, after the movie, there's nothing about them that I can remember.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like the alien.
Speaker B:The xenomorph is so iconic of a look.
Speaker B:You cannot get that look out of your head.
Speaker B:Even the half of the aliens and Men in Black, like, you just.
Speaker B:They have so distinctive looks that you remember them.
Speaker B:Yeah, These are just kind of there.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I think.
Speaker B:I think that's gonna put me in an.
Speaker B:Up yours.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:They're fine.
Speaker B:I can't necessarily say anything, like, bad about them.
Speaker B:There's nothing that I was like, oh, that's stupid.
Speaker B:But it's like, yeah, out.
Speaker B:Once I'm past it, I just.
Speaker B:I can't barely even remember what they look like.
Speaker B:I'd rather rewatch Jar Jar Binks.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker C:He is my favorite character.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker C:In the entire Star wars series.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker C:And the reason is.
Speaker C:Is because when he was completely and totally useless.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And they wanted to move him forward, they're like, what do we do?
Speaker C:They made him a politician.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker C:I was like, yes.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker C:Perfect.
Speaker C:That's perfect.
Speaker B:But, yeah, so it's A squeak under up yours for me.
Speaker A:Couple of points of reference to.
Speaker A:So War of the Worlds.
Speaker A:I just, I just did a quick search because all the best, the top rated Alien movies of all time.
Speaker A:Predator Arrival, Men in Black, Independence Day, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, the Thing and the Ridley Scott, James Cameron Aliens and then Extraterrestrial.
Speaker A:So there's some flavors.
Speaker B:I just feel like every single one of those that you named the aliens themselves are more iconic and more, more memorable.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, I liked, I liked the aliens.
Speaker C:I thought they looked like aliens.
Speaker B:See, that's the thing is like when I went in the movie, they, they match the setting, it's fine.
Speaker B:But as far as like iconic aliens.
Speaker C:Go, you didn't like little Grogu coming out of him and stuff?
Speaker B:I didn't even remember that.
Speaker C:You don't remember that?
Speaker B:That's where.
Speaker B:Again, that's where I'm like, there's a lot when he's.
Speaker C:The long haired dude is like dissecting the live one.
Speaker C:The little guy comes out and I'm like, oh, it's gross.
Speaker C:Grogu.
Speaker B:See?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Just for me personally, it didn't, it didn't hit.
Speaker B:Well, I don't know.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Wasn't as cute as Grogu, but you dig them.
Speaker A:You like the big skulls.
Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker A:The big head.
Speaker C:I like the Russian dolls.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because I feel like that.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:I'm pretty confident that that's not what would happen if I split open.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker B:I do like the mini Joel's inside of them.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:One, one mini jewel.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:It's just a single layer Russian doll.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Nothing complicated.
Speaker A:You're kicking the tires and lighting the fires.
Speaker C:I'm liking it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I like those aliens.
Speaker A:Oh, I wish I liked them.
Speaker A:I just, I am such a fanboy of Alien.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Predator is a top five all time movie for me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Love the functionality of the Predator.
Speaker A:I, I just feel like these aliens drive ships and make technology but themselves, I don't really know.
Speaker C:Like it couldn't make themselves prettier.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I just kind of feel like.
Speaker B:Or scarier.
Speaker B:Like that's the problem.
Speaker B:They weren't pretty, they weren't scary, but.
Speaker C:That was perfect for me.
Speaker C:That's what they did.
Speaker C:They knew this was going to be a family movie, a blockbuster.
Speaker C:Look, the amount of times I had to fast forward, I've got my kids in the room, you know, so.
Speaker C:And then I'm also like a child, so I get scared too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like the amount of Times I had to fast forward.
Speaker C:Very minimal.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I feel like it was just like they were like, what's the.
Speaker A:Let's just come up with an alien.
Speaker A:It was just like.
Speaker A:And it's like, let's add tentacles and let's have.
Speaker A:Let's have an ant head.
Speaker A:And this is like.
Speaker A:Like, I love Predator because of just the intentionality of just the.
Speaker A:The cool face and the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The helmet and the moments.
Speaker A:Like an alien, too.
Speaker A:Just like you said, the HR Giger aliens are just so functional.
Speaker A:So just.
Speaker A:I'm thinking of a.
Speaker A:Like the word that's terrifying.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Here they're.
Speaker A:I know it's kind of a comedic tone movie, but I'm just like.
Speaker C:They didn't make them that demonic.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Where's the gravitas coming from in this movie?
Speaker A:Like, there's just never.
Speaker A:There's never a heaviness ever.
Speaker A:Like, at least make the aliens, like, somewhat kind of scary uniform, but not even there.
Speaker C:It's alien propaganda, guys.
Speaker A:It is alien.
Speaker C:They're trying to desensitize, get us used to those looking.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker B:It's true.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then they come down here and put a leash on you and walk you like a dog.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker A:So part of life.
Speaker A:Well, it is two to four.
Speaker A:We got one category left, and this one's reserved for Mr.
Speaker A:Pullman.
Speaker A:Happy birthday, Mr.
Speaker A:President is the name of this category.
Speaker A:Let's think about famous movie presidents.
Speaker A:I just named one Jack Nicholson and Mars Attacks.
Speaker A:How's Bill Pullman as a movie president?
Speaker B:So there's this one guy, and I do not remember his name, but he's played the president so many times.
Speaker B:And the one place I can remember him from is the Stargate TV show.
Speaker B:But I've literally seen him in probably four or five different projects as the President.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:He's my, like, my number one guy as far as being the president.
Speaker B:And God, I wish I could remember his name, but he's incredible.
Speaker B:Bill Pullman.
Speaker B:Comparing him to how much I love this other guy.
Speaker B:Like, he's just.
Speaker B:He's there.
Speaker B:And again, like I said earlier, I like the juxtaposition of him being with his daughter the whole time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And how he's trying to balance being the president and saving the country and the world, but also still being a good father, which I think is a good aspect of, like, showing him actually trying to be a good father.
Speaker B:So for me, it is going to be a tires.
Speaker B:I actually do really like his unique interpretation of what a president could be.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Here's a good list of presidents here.
Speaker A:Bill Pullman was first on the list.
Speaker A:Maybe because it knew I was.
Speaker A:I was researching independence.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:President James Marshall.
Speaker A:Harrison Ford and Air Force One.
Speaker A:Michael Douglas and the American President.
Speaker A:President Dwayne what Mountain Drew to Camacho.
Speaker A:Terry Crews and Idiocracy.
Speaker A:I didn't know about that one.
Speaker A:Jack Nicholson and Mars Attacks President Beck.
Speaker A:Morgan Freeman and Dip Impact.
Speaker A:It's funny, so many of them are alien movies.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:24.
Speaker A:The TV show.
Speaker A:Dennis Hayesbert.
Speaker C:Kiefer Sutherland.
Speaker A:Yep, Kiefer.
Speaker A:Meryl Streep as President Orlean and don't look up.
Speaker A:That movie sucked anyway.
Speaker A:Those are some good reference points.
Speaker C:Wait, didn't.
Speaker C:Who's the Morgan Freeman?
Speaker C:Didn't he play president in something?
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Deep Impact.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:He was the president.
Speaker A:President back.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:The guy I'm talking about, his name is William Devane.
Speaker B:And I know you all have seen him in.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:He's played the president like five or six different times.
Speaker B:He's my number one guy.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Bill Pullman.
Speaker B:Compared to him, I think he'd hit top 10.
Speaker C:He's too old though now to be.
Speaker C:Be president currently.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But well, I mean we say that.
Speaker B:I mean like an almost like 90 year old guy who was just president.
Speaker A:And if they ever get too old, just get the son and the wife to handle things.
Speaker C:It works so well last time.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:You just employ the people around you to play president.
Speaker C:Auto pen.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I think Bill Pullman holds up.
Speaker A:What do you think?
Speaker A:Happy birthday, Mr.
Speaker A:President.
Speaker C:I like the president in the movie.
Speaker C:I thought I.
Speaker C:It was believable and, and he looked the part and he acted like a good president and he was a little bit of a.
Speaker C:A girl.
Speaker C:And then he got some balls.
Speaker C:He fired that Sec Def or whatever, whoever it was.
Speaker C:And, and I liked.
Speaker C:And I liked that.
Speaker C:And then he got into the.
Speaker C:He got into the plane.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:For me that sealed the deal.
Speaker A:That was pretty cool.
Speaker B:That lines.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Willing to put your life out there.
Speaker C:To me, I like that when the leaders do that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I know where you're going with it.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's actually kind of hard.
Speaker A:Like he just made some really good points, you know, because the Air Force thing is cool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I guess the hard part is that in real life the only people that we, we elect president are people that avoided military service.
Speaker A:It's the most unrealistic thing.
Speaker A:Like John McCain could just never quite sniff it, you know, because he's like, oh, did he actually serve in the military?
Speaker A:We can have that guy in here.
Speaker A:We only need people that avoided it.
Speaker C:Well, he lost because his cheeks look like Egg McMuffin.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:His Arizona cheeks.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Do not use that as the.
Speaker B:As the thumbnail.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:That moment that just happened.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm tired of him because he keeps using me going, ah.
Speaker B:As the.
Speaker B:As the.
Speaker B:He has a great laugh every.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:Every single time.
Speaker A:But it's great.
Speaker A:I always look for it.
Speaker C:I like it.
Speaker A:Can you no more just take over the thumbnails then?
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I hate that part anyway.
Speaker B:Pick a normal shot.
Speaker C:AI do it.
Speaker A:No, but I.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:You convinced me.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I'm a squeak over.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:I don't like him as the president in the office walking around.
Speaker A:I just think it's.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think there was probably a thousand better choices for that part.
Speaker A:But when once he gets behind the aircraft and he starts flying around, that part was really cool.
Speaker A:It was enough to be redeeming.
Speaker A:I do kind of have this fantasiacal thing about.
Speaker A:That would be cool if we had a president that had some balls and was willing to actually put their life on the line.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Besides getting assassinated.
Speaker A:I guess you could say that's.
Speaker A:That's getting.
Speaker A:Putting your balls.
Speaker C:Balls.
Speaker C:We need like David Goggins for president.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:David Goggins.
Speaker A:You know, that would be a hard world.
Speaker C:That'd be very scary.
Speaker A:Are you eating cereal again?
Speaker A:Stay hard.
Speaker C:Stop.
Speaker A:Eating cereal is illegal.
Speaker A:Every citizen of this country is going to run 10 miles before breakfast.
Speaker A:Stay hard.
Speaker C:But yeah, maybe vice president.
Speaker A:Yeah, maybe vice president.
Speaker A:Maybe Secretary of.
Speaker B:We'll send him overseas.
Speaker A:Secretary of Running long distances.
Speaker C:Look at whatever job Barack's wife had with the fitness.
Speaker C:We'll get it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Just to basic.
Speaker A:Basically liaise with the lobbyist of the food industry.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Oh, that'd be good.
Speaker A:Kick the tires, light the fire.
Speaker A:Squeak over for me.
Speaker A:So it's three to four.
Speaker B:Hey, that's solid.
Speaker A:It's a squeak.
Speaker A:I think it's about right.
Speaker A:I think we.
Speaker A:We gave homage where it needed to be given with the.
Speaker A:With the relevancy, the culture.
Speaker A:You can't underestimate that.
Speaker A:But it didn't necessarily hold up.
Speaker A:You loved it, which is great.
Speaker A:There's people that look back on this fondly.
Speaker A:So I think it's a good score.
Speaker B:I say so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Squeak over.
Speaker A:So yeah, we're going to do the Patriot next.
Speaker A:And somehow the same director didn't even mean to do that.
Speaker A:But thank you for just so glad that you were here.
Speaker A:This is going to come out mid or in July.
Speaker A:So do you have any shows that you want people to come?
Speaker A:We have listeners everywhere, Joel.
Speaker C:Comedy dot com.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, I have so many dates.
Speaker B:Actually, I have six shows that's beginning busy.
Speaker B:Well, there's one that's a private thing, so don't talk.
Speaker B:Don't care about that one.
Speaker B:But I'm at 3rd coast on the 18th.
Speaker B:I'm at the Urban Dog Bar on the 19th.
Speaker B:I'm at Scruffy City hall in Knoxville on July 23rd.
Speaker B:I'm at the Dive Motel on the 24th.
Speaker B:And I'm on the Comedy showcase at the Comedy Catch in Chattanooga on the 31st.
Speaker A:Oh, nice.
Speaker A:I didn't know about that one.
Speaker B:Yeah, congrats.
Speaker B:Congratulations.
Speaker B:Come see me, y' all.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And since it's a private event, you could just say whatever you want at the Guggenheim.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's doing a private event at.
Speaker C:The Guggenheim for the President.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:They just, they just did their Sutherland.
Speaker A:They just did their buttholes of the famous exhibition.
Speaker A:And you're.
Speaker A:You're doing an open mic there, right on the fourth floor of Guggenheim at the Butthole Exposition of the.
Speaker B:There's a, there's a local arts college and a film student hit me up and.
Speaker B:And once needs to film a live event.
Speaker B:So we're on a comedy show at the college.
Speaker A:That's like all your world's colliding.
Speaker A:Yeah, they need a podcast there.
Speaker A:I can bring a microphone, not a.
Speaker B:Podcast, but I will be getting a professional 20 minute video out of it.
Speaker B:I'm pumped.
Speaker A:Check out his new photos too.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's got some great new photos.
Speaker C:He looks better than he does right now.
Speaker A:And on that.
Speaker C:On.
Speaker A:On that note, I don't know, that's.
Speaker C:Every profess looks better than you look in real time.
Speaker A:I guess there's some truth to that.
Speaker A:Okay, I'm going to have to think about that comment.
Speaker B:They just called me ugly.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker C:That's the autism kicking in right there.
Speaker A:Honestly, I'm just glad someone else is take.
Speaker A:I'm just glad someone else is taking some heat on this podcast besides me.
Speaker A:Thank you all for chilling of us.
Speaker A:We're going to take a break and film the patriot.
Speaker A:Love, y' all.
Speaker B:Kyle, I'm Seth.
Speaker C:I'm Joel.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker A:See you next time.
Speaker A:Movie Wars.
