Dredd (2012)
The Movie Wars crew thoroughly and hilariously dissect "Dredd" (2012), where Nashville comedian Joshua Lewis joins hosts Seth and Kyle to elucidate the stark contrasts between this interpretation and its predecessor, the 1995 iteration starring Sylvester Stallone. From the outset, we delve into how "Dredd" presents a markedly different narrative approach, characterized by its immersive world-building and a more nuanced portrayal of its titular character. The discussion highlights the film's effective use of visual storytelling, notably through its innovative cinematography and sound design, contributing to a gripping cyberpunk atmosphere. Throughout the conversation, the trio examines the performances of the cast, particularly commendable is Lena Headey's portrayal of the antagonist, which adds layers of complexity to the film's narrative. Ultimately, this episode offers a thoughtful analysis of "Dredd," emphasizing its merits and the artistic choices that distinguish it from earlier adaptations.
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The latest episode of Movie Wars features a compelling discourse on the cinematic interpretations of the Judge Dredd franchise, specifically contrasting the 2012 film 'Dredd' with its 1995 predecessor featuring Sylvester Stallone. Joshua Lewis, a comedian from Nashville, joins hosts Seth and Kyle to delve into the intricacies of both films, offering insights that highlight the stark differences in tone, narrative structure, and character development. The conversation opens with a lighthearted introduction, transitioning into a more profound examination of the world-building in 'Dredd', where the hosts laud its immersive universe and tight storytelling, which effectively draws the viewer into a dystopian reality. The episode also explores how the film's visual stylings, particularly its use of slow-motion effects, serve to enhance the storytelling, despite some critique regarding the overuse of this technique. The guests reflect on the performances, particularly that of Karl Urban, whose portrayal of the titular character is celebrated as a significant improvement over Stallone's version, emphasizing the depth and nuance brought to the role. Ultimately, the episode serves as an engaging analysis of how 'Dredd' managed to carve a unique identity within the comic book genre, setting a high standard for future adaptations.
Takeaways:
- The 2012 adaptation of Dredd presents a stark contrast to the 1995 version, showcasing a gritty and visceral portrayal of the character and his world.
- The film's unique visual style and use of slow-motion cinematography effectively immerse the viewer into the chaotic environment of Mega City One.
- Dredd's character development and stoicism are significantly enhanced compared to the Stallone interpretation, providing a more authentic representation of the comic book character.
- The supporting cast, including Lena Headey's performance as Mama, adds depth and complexity to the narrative, elevating the film's overall impact.
- The film successfully creates a contained yet expansive dystopian world, filled with socio-political commentary that resonates with contemporary issues.
- Dredd demonstrates a masterful balance of action and narrative pacing, resulting in an engaging cinematic experience that keeps the audience invested throughout.
Transcript
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Speaker A:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Movie wars podcast.
Speaker A:I'm your host, Kyle.
Speaker B:I'm Seth.
Speaker C:Jose Louise.
Speaker A:He's back Poppins in Mr.
Speaker A:Josh Lewis.
Speaker A:Nashville Comedians.
Speaker B:The Zen popper over here.
Speaker C:I just recently learned that my name, Joshua in Spanish is Jose.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker C:So now I've been trying to go by that like the.
Speaker B:So now you're the gay Jose.
Speaker B:Thank you, Jose.
Speaker A:Is there a lot of situations where you need to pull that out?
Speaker C:Just my part time job at a pizza place that's connected to an Italian restaurant that has.
Speaker C:Has a.
Speaker C:A large population of Mexicans that work in the.
Speaker B:That tracks for n.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then one day she just couldn't.
Speaker C:There was a lady and she just could not say my name.
Speaker C:She only wants to speak Spanish to me.
Speaker C:I can't speak really any Spanish.
Speaker C:And then one day she was like, what is your name?
Speaker C:And I was just like, joshua.
Speaker C:And she just stared at me.
Speaker C:And then I just pulled out my phone and said, what is Joshua in Spanish?
Speaker C:And I showed it to her and she went, oh, Jose.
Speaker C:And then my middle name's David, just to make it plainer, but in Spanish it's Josue David.
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker C:And then my last name's being Louis.
Speaker A:You're a soap opera star down south, dude.
Speaker C:I should.
Speaker C:There was no reason for me to stay in America.
Speaker C:Just ship me to Mexico.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Deport me now.
Speaker C:I don't mean to put a time stamp on this.
Speaker A:Speaking of deportation, we're doing dread today.
Speaker A:2012.
Speaker A:Dread.
Speaker A:We just did Judge Dread.
Speaker A:And it was funny because you brought up doing Dread and I saw it on your list.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, I haven't watched the Dread movie because I.
Speaker A:Obviously, I'm a big Sylvester Stallone fan.
Speaker A:And then was like, well, I should do both of them.
Speaker A:And wow.
Speaker A:Like, two totally different interpretations.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:2.
Speaker B:Only things similar were the guns and the helmets.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Even the uniforms were different.
Speaker A:I like these uniforms better.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They did a really good job at setting up a world and keeping everything contained to where you're not trying to figure too much out.
Speaker B:You're presented with this world where you have entire city blocks that are 200 story tall buildings that 80,000 people can live in at a time, all sprinkled throughout regular looking buildings.
Speaker B:And you find out that from Washington D.C.
Speaker B:to Boston is one city now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And everything in between.
Speaker B:But then after that, you're pretty much contained in one building for the entire movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I love it.
Speaker A:Which is very much cyberpunk.
Speaker A:Like, they did that in the game.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's very.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It again, it's like you're not trying to figure too much out, you know, just enough about the world for everything that's happening in front of you to make sense.
Speaker B:But it's also like I could learn more.
Speaker A:They do a good job injecting you into the world.
Speaker A:That was one of the biggest differences is that I felt like I was a little more absorbed into what was happening and into the world they created.
Speaker C:I kind of, in a way, I think because I watch Judge Dread followed by Dread damn near in one sitting.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like a maniac.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That at points during the Dread movie, I went, is this movie good because Judge Dredd is that bad or is this movie just self contained good?
Speaker C:Hopefully you guys watch this with like I.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker C:In between.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I had seen Dread the year it came out.
Speaker B:I didn't.
Speaker B:I had no idea what Judge Dredd was.
Speaker B:I didn't even know it was a Sylvester Stallone movie at the time.
Speaker B:Again, I was 18, had just come out of being a Christian homeschooler first year or first semester through Belmont, so Christian school.
Speaker B:So like 18 year old Seth was not prepared for the graphic violence that he saw that day.
Speaker B:But I do remember by the end of it, still enjoying the experience.
Speaker B:Like the story that it told, I think was very well done.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:My favorite thing was absolutely the way they handled the slow mo.
Speaker B:I'm sure every Snyder hater out there is just like, fuck this movie.
Speaker B:What is it?
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:Is it discount Zack Snyder and it's already shit.
Speaker B:Look, there's so much slow mo.
Speaker B:I'm like, no, it was cool.
Speaker B:It was really fun.
Speaker B:And the way that they were able to cover up some of the cheap animation as far as like the blood splatter stuff is concerned by using that kind of rainbow effect.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like so much of this came together for me.
Speaker C:There had to be something.
Speaker C:And the cinematographer, the director, whoever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That just went, this is the new Sin City.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:This is what filmmaking, these types of movies are going to look like for the next five to 10 years.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:We got in on the forefront.
Speaker B:Check it out.
Speaker C:By the way, this is the second time I've watched this movie.
Speaker C:I've forgotten totally about all that.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I remembered.
Speaker C:I remembered taking a Gatling gun, four of them, four of them, destroying everything.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I remember just.
Speaker C:It just boom.
Speaker C:Just killing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I remember sort of remember the psychic girl.
Speaker B:Yeah, I totally forgot even about the psychic girl.
Speaker C:Yeah, There you go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, this is maybe the third time I've ever seen this movie.
Speaker B:And yeah, I completely forgot about her.
Speaker B:Really.
Speaker B:All I remembered was Karl Urban never takes his helmet off.
Speaker B:And a very like out of place almost Lena Heady as the villain.
Speaker B:Because I'm very used to her as Cersei from Game of Thrones, even though I actually didn't realize until later.
Speaker B:I have been a fan of hers since the 90s when she was in Rudyard Kipling's the Jungle Book with Jason Scott Lee, Carrie Elwes, Sam Neill and John Cleese.
Speaker B:Live action version of the Jungle book from the 90s.
Speaker C:Don't recall that at all.
Speaker B:Yeah, she's a very young Lena Headey is in that movie and that it's.
Speaker B:That is an underrated movie.
Speaker A:When I looked at her IMDb when I was doing my research after I watched it, I couldn't believe the difference between how she looked in the movie and how she looks in real life.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker B:And yet.
Speaker B:So the girl I was watching with last night, we were watching it, she came on screen and I was like, you know, she's hot enough that even with the scar, I'd still do it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'd still go there.
Speaker A:Meth mouth never hurt anybody.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, that works.
Speaker C:By the way, one of the things that they really bombed at is showing the degradation of her teeth.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Is that in one scene they were like green.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Then they do a close up and she literally had black spots.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Teeth where I was just like.
Speaker C:It's taking me out of it a little bit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This is definitely not a perfect movie.
Speaker B:It's miles above where the first one was.
Speaker B:But there were definitely some, if you want to get even just a little nitpicky.
Speaker B:There's definitely some, some continuity errors.
Speaker B:But overall I absolutely loved this movie significantly more than the first one.
Speaker A:I didn't watch them even though we're doing them because they're, they, they are the same, you know, universe and everything.
Speaker A:I, I didn't watch them for whatever reason.
Speaker A:I don't know if it's a distance between like, I don't know that there was really an impetus to reboot the, like the old movie.
Speaker A:I, I think somebody and Carl Urban himself is apparently a Die hard dread fan of the comics and apparently there was just a desire to make a true to form film.
Speaker A:But I don't know that they even looked at the old one.
Speaker A:I bet somebody did, but I don't know that they were trying to improve on the old one.
Speaker A:I think they really wanted to do their own thing.
Speaker B:Every now and then I would get a little bit of.
Speaker B:Of a throwback.
Speaker B:And it was mostly the few times Carl Urban had like a solid catchphrase, one liner kind of moment.
Speaker A:I am the law.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it was.
Speaker B:But it was.
Speaker B:But like I said in the last episode, it was like 10%.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:In this one.
Speaker B:Of what they did in the first one.
Speaker B:So it's like I think they wanted to at least pay homage to what had been done without any direct references to it.
Speaker A:And they were totally willing to show.
Speaker A:Show violence.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:There was no.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker A:There was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That scene I still to this day love.
Speaker B:Weirdly love the scene where it's like she's like skin him and throw him off the balcony.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then just.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:But like having it be.
Speaker B:You don't see the skinned bodies.
Speaker B:You just are first person perspective.
Speaker B:You are the guy getting thrown.
Speaker B:And then the transition when.
Speaker B:When he puts the slow mo in his mouth and he just.
Speaker B:All of that sequence was absolutely flawless for me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we also get some action in the world too.
Speaker A:Like we don't get a ton, but we get enough to know that like the car opening car chase scene.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I love how that kind of like pulled us into like.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:That was already a step ahead of what Judge Dredd did.
Speaker A:Because I just felt like there was this big crazy world that we had zero.
Speaker A:You know, we hadn't been exposed to it at all.
Speaker A:By the end of the movie I'm like, well, there's so many interesting stories.
Speaker A:We're seeing little interesting stories in the world immediately.
Speaker B:I also like that they're pretty vague about how far in the future this one is.
Speaker B:Cuz I'm pretty sure in Judge Dread they say a thousand years.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Doesn't look a thousand years from now.
Speaker B:This I could buy a couple hundred years where things still feel somewhat familiar.
Speaker B:But we're definitely in a new place.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The cars don't fly, for instance.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Cuz they don't need to.
Speaker C:How do you do traffic?
Speaker C:How do you do traffic when the car is flying?
Speaker A:I can't feed my children.
Speaker A:I don't need a flying car.
Speaker A:Well, awesome.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And you know, once again, just judging you.
Speaker A:If you haven't shared Movie wars do it.
Speaker A:Keith Urban's mouth in this movie is impeccable.
Speaker A:Keith Urban.
Speaker C:I was rolling with you.
Speaker A:I'm gonna do that.
Speaker A:I'm gonna do that several times.
Speaker B:I wanna love somebody.
Speaker A:By the way, I got lambasted because I.
Speaker A:I suggested on an Instagram reel that Carl Urban would make a good John Marston if he could get the voice.
Speaker B:John Marsden from Red Dead Redemption.
Speaker C:He's not going to do it if he has to say America a bunch because he says America.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:I forget at the beginning.
Speaker A:Oh, I forgot about that.
Speaker C:Watch the beginning.
Speaker A:You don't think so?
Speaker B:I disagree.
Speaker A:I feel like he has maybe.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:He could.
Speaker A:Maybe I deserve to get lambasted.
Speaker C:I mean, this guy was a writer of Rohan.
Speaker C:I mean, I mean, sure.
Speaker B:But yeah, you're talking, like, regal as versus redneck Cowboy.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:The guy that plays Arthur Morgan's an Irishman.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Not the same thing.
Speaker C:Oh, I guess I didn't know that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Roger Clark.
Speaker C:Well, that explains why so many things sound so weird in that game.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't think he would do a bad job.
Speaker B:I just don't think he would fit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I really like him.
Speaker B:No, he's fantastic.
Speaker C:We should put him in, I think.
Speaker C:Let's go ahead and make Red Dead.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:We're doing it.
Speaker B:We're making Red Dead Redemption and we're putting him in.
Speaker C:We're gonna make it all with Eastern Europeans.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like the Walking Dead.
Speaker A:Like the Walking playing all the Atlantic.
Speaker B:All the white people will be played by black people and all the Native Americans will be played by Japanese.
Speaker C:Let's do it.
Speaker A:But anyway, if you're a fan, it's amazing being the producer of the show, having a bunch of comedians.
Speaker A:Like, I just like, where do I cut?
Speaker A:You know, it's amazing because I'm like, you don't.
Speaker B:Unedited and raw dog.
Speaker A:On one hand, I'm like, there's so much greatness coming from the emerald couch.
Speaker A:And then on the other end, it's like, God, this is going to be three hours, but share with your friends lest ye be judged.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:The questions.
Speaker B:Here we go.
Speaker A:And I actually got three because I.
Speaker A:I had.
Speaker A:Okay, stop trying to peg me with the slow mo again.
Speaker A:But you're right, I liked it.
Speaker A:And I liked this slow motion a lot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:There were some scenes where it was too long.
Speaker B:I disagree.
Speaker B:You disagree very much.
Speaker A:I thought maybe even you would say, and here's my big problem with it.
Speaker A:This is why one was too long.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:And this is, I think, a continuity error.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:To me.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:When she says to give him slow mo before she throws them off the balcony.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, that's great.
Speaker A:But the moment they hit the ground, they're no longer conscious, and they're not going to be seeing things.
Speaker A:Slow mo.
Speaker A:Because they're dead.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So it's like, yeah, you're going to be.
Speaker A:Your.
Speaker A:Your brain's going to be perceiving it at 1%, but at the moment your brain collides with the brain, you're not.
Speaker A:You're not conceiving anything.
Speaker A:You're dead.
Speaker A:So it's like, why did that have to be so long?
Speaker A:Like the length of time that they did, that they would have hit the ground and died.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it would have no longer been projecting anything.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker B:Perspective.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But simply perspective.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:But they do say it later in the movie.
Speaker C:She gave him the slow mo just so the tear would build up.
Speaker C:Yeah, because they feel like they're falling slower.
Speaker B:Yeah, because no, they're falling at normal speed.
Speaker B:But it's all when you're just in that perspective.
Speaker A:So you're telling me that that 1% speed, the amount of seconds that it takes up after they take the inhaler until they hit the ground, that was.
Speaker A:That was a good amount of time.
Speaker B:And, yeah.
Speaker B:As far as from the perspective of someone who's on that drug, I was.
Speaker C:Just thinking, I can see where both y'all are coming from.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:And I'll be honest with you, I have no argument for or against either, because I understand.
Speaker C:Yours is like, you're still falling.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:So it's not like time's really slowing down.
Speaker C:And you're like.
Speaker C:But in your.
Speaker A:In your mind, it is.
Speaker A:But then when you splat, you have no mind.
Speaker A:You have no perception.
Speaker A:Time.
Speaker A:Because you're dead.
Speaker B:Well, remember the.
Speaker B:There.
Speaker B:I mean, the.
Speaker B:The philosophical idea of your life flashes before.
Speaker B:Before your eyes.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There is a literal philosophical theory that your life right now is you in the middle of dying, and you're reliving your life in a constant loop, and every time in your brain you hit that place where you're gonna die, it just flashes.
Speaker C:Oh, God.
Speaker C:Don't turn this podcast into a primer movie.
Speaker B:We need to put that on the list.
Speaker C:Don't invite me over.
Speaker C:So that's gonna be insane.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:For me, again, it's because immediately they cut away.
Speaker B:They're like, what, a quarter of the way down?
Speaker B:It's taken a while.
Speaker B:And then they cut away, and you see how fast they're actually falling.
Speaker B:It's very specifically, we're in the perspective because it's first person perspective.
Speaker B:It's not even like we're watching the guy Fall.
Speaker B:We are the guy falling.
Speaker B:So it's just to get the idea across that this guy.
Speaker B:Even though it only took 10 seconds or whatever, this guy.
Speaker B:That whole 10 seconds felt like an eternity.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:It's also a pretty nice thing to do if you're going to kill somebody.
Speaker B:Why would you say that?
Speaker C:Just because you can get right with whatever you believe in.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You can make your peace.
Speaker A:Get right with the Lord.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You just hit that inhaler, and you're just like, I know, God, that this is only taken 3.5 seconds, but since I'm here for the next 15 minutes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm sorry about Bessie.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm sorry about all that shit that I did.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I read once that y'all are cool with that as long as I admit to it.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker B:Even at the end when she gets thrown over, that's the one time that we get to watch the entire fall from that perspective.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And no.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, I.
Speaker B:I think it works really well.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I could see how it could be a little bit.
Speaker B:But no, I think for what they were trying to get across, they did.
Speaker A:Well, I still think visually, it's really cool.
Speaker A:Like, I think it's really fun to.
Speaker B:Watch that bathtub scene, which is the water, like, still sticking to her skin?
Speaker B:Skin.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So well done.
Speaker A:That was cool.
Speaker C:Is this drug bad?
Speaker C:Is it supposed to be bad?
Speaker B:I mean, it's supposed to be harmful, but.
Speaker B:I mean, aren't all drugs fun but harmful?
Speaker C:Yeah, I was trying to figure out because, like, you know, let's say it was like, meth or whatever, like the original Crow.
Speaker C:I think they were doing, like, meth.
Speaker B:Or something like that.
Speaker C:And I was like, oh, yeah.
Speaker C:It's like, you know, people dying around them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, nobody's dying off this unless somebody skins them and throws them off.
Speaker B:I think this is supposed to be like, the, like, fentanyl kind of crisis right before that really happened, like, our society.
Speaker B:Because at that point, you did have, like, the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:What is it?
Speaker B:The oxy road, basically, like, going up certain parts of the country.
Speaker B:And so I think in some ways, it was trying to capitalize on that idea.
Speaker B:But, yeah, this is basically like futuristic heroin mixed with fentanyl.
Speaker A:It's a sci fi trope, too, man.
Speaker A:I mean, this is how they ruined RoboCop was so original.
Speaker A:But RoboCop, too, is like, what would we do?
Speaker A:Voorhoven's not here.
Speaker A:So they came up with Nuke.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, the drug.
Speaker A:It's like, we'll come up with this Dystop rug that everybody's on.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:It's definitely like something that just.
Speaker C:They're just making a critique of crack, stuff like that.
Speaker C:Like, you know, for RoboCop too.
Speaker C:This is one of the few times that I can relate to my mom.
Speaker C:So I had a friend, like, grew up with, and we were real close when we were kids.
Speaker C:Drifted away whenever I moved away, but he got shocker strung out on meth.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker C:And meth has just made it to, like, my little home, my little shire up there in East Tennessee.
Speaker B:Up in the holler.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I called mom and we were talking about it and stuff.
Speaker C:She goes, I just don't understand this.
Speaker C:It's not like they're getting high.
Speaker C:They're going crazy.
Speaker C:And I was just like, yeah, mom, it's method high.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:I was like, it's not even an enjoy.
Speaker C:Like, she under.
Speaker C:We could all understand if somebody's like, I'm gonna take this pill or shoot this up and I'm gonna feel amazing and just relax.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Nobody can, like, it's hard to argue.
Speaker C:Hey, you shouldn't do that until it starts killing you or you start stealing and killing for it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And like that.
Speaker C:But, like, you know, Matthew instantly, like, hit the ground running like I'm a murderous psycho.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, I'm gonna bite someone's face off.
Speaker C:And that's the kind of way I'm feeling about slow mo.
Speaker C:Like, people are like, man, I just.
Speaker C:The world is too fast paced.
Speaker C:I'm gonna hit this inhaler and just watch water twinkle.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, most of the.
Speaker A:Most of the world is poor.
Speaker A:What are they gonna be poor at slow speed?
Speaker A:Is that what it is?
Speaker C:That's what it is.
Speaker C:Just prolong it.
Speaker A:I want to starve at 1%.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know enough about the source material to know if there's like, any explanation for why it's so dangerous.
Speaker B:But my assumption is just, yeah, you do it long enough, you'll build up in immunity.
Speaker B:You got to do extra, and then.
Speaker C:Your teeth get bad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Also, what's the infrastructure?
Speaker A:I didn't write this question down, but, man, like, the infrastructure to find all the inhalers.
Speaker A:I mean, you got to find all the asthmatics, but give me your inhaler.
Speaker A:We got to make some slow mo.
Speaker A:Where are they getting all these inhalers?
Speaker B:Happens when you live in a building that's an entire city block that houses 80,000 people.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:I forget the size and scope.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it's like, I bet they got some inhalers down there because I.
Speaker C:Think most of the the movie took place like level 25 or something.
Speaker C:Like, I can't remember which.
Speaker A:29 and 39 or something.
Speaker A:25.
Speaker B:And then they go up to 76 because they had to get above level 75.
Speaker B:And then they finally go up to 200.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I love that idea.
Speaker A:Like that truly to me is one of the more dystopian realities.
Speaker A:Like these idea.
Speaker A:These giant.
Speaker A:I just thought that was so.
Speaker B:Well, what was funny.
Speaker B:So two years before this came out, I had just been in Singapore and in Singapore they're kind of already doing something similar.
Speaker B:The buildings aren't as big, but they're known as high density blocks where you'll literally have like a thousand studio apartments in one building, but you have like 15 people living in each studio apartment.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:So it's literally just people packed on each other all over the place.
Speaker B:And underneath, at the very bottom, you have grocery stores, you have restaurants, and you have, you have like shopping that you can do.
Speaker B:And it's literally like, other than going to work, you never need to leave your building.
Speaker C:Sounds great.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Sign me up.
Speaker B:So that was.
Speaker C:That was 14 little people and we'll just jump right in.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that for me was really interesting.
Speaker B:When I saw it was because I.
Speaker B:I almost saw it already happening in Asia.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:China.
Speaker A:China has that too.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:But they put like livestock in theirs, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they're also made from plaster, so they just start falling apart.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:These are the kids making Indigo jeans for Walmart.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:We find out.
Speaker C:I've thought about this a lot.
Speaker C:What if we find out that China is a literal utopia and we're just being fed bullshit over here to be like, it's so bad.
Speaker C:And then like we go over there and they're like, check it out.
Speaker A:Crab rangoon everywhere.
Speaker B:General so.
Speaker B:Fuck yeah.
Speaker C:You like Asian chicks?
Speaker C:They're all over the place.
Speaker A:80 billion of them.
Speaker B:I know enough people who live there and I know enough people who visited that it's like, yes, there are parts of it that, that are absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker B:But also remember, a small city in China is like 20 million people.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it's like no matter what you're still getting, like, with just how many people are in one space and there's.
Speaker A:Tons of unlivable land.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Like mountains and stuff.
Speaker A:Like that's like the majority of it, isn't it?
Speaker A:Like most of it can't be lived on.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's it's kind of crazy.
Speaker B:And the fact that they have almost one.
Speaker B:One and a half billion people there and now is just that right there is.
Speaker B:What's the biggest issue with.
Speaker B:With keeping clean is when you just have that many people scaling everything up that much is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You're saying we need to kill more people?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Makes sense.
Speaker B:Let's judge Dredam.
Speaker A:Next question.
Speaker C:What's your crime?
Speaker B:Living.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Just being here.
Speaker A:Taking a.
Speaker A:I existed.
Speaker A:I took a.
Speaker A:And there's 14 people watching in our.
Speaker C:High rise, waiting in line.
Speaker A:Mama must have been one tough whore, huh?
Speaker B:Absolute fucking.
Speaker A:What a tough hooker.
Speaker B:Well, remember she was Leonidas, his wife in 300.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:She's a tough bitch.
Speaker B:And then she became Cersei, maybe a year before this came out.
Speaker A:I haven't seen Game of Thrones, so.
Speaker B:It'S worth one viewing.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:You get through all of it.
Speaker B:You rage at how, like, weird the ending was, and then you just move on like the rest of us did.
Speaker B:But that being said, her character in Game of Thrones, she is, like, the top bitch.
Speaker A:Like, yeah.
Speaker B:Absolutely dangerous the whole time.
Speaker B:And I think.
Speaker B:I think, especially with Lena Heady, like, this character fit her personality in what I've seen her in other films, if I think it fit her really well.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker A:She's tough as hell on this.
Speaker A:I dug it.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Also, would it kill Hollywood to just get American actors to do American parts?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I'm not saying I understand it's acting and stuff like that, but I knew that I was like, I'm going to have to fight through this just a touch.
Speaker C:Whenever Carl Urban said America at the beginning, and he said America.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I just went, no, but damn it.
Speaker B:You said a British company did the comic book.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They're based on British comics about American dystopias.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I wouldn't be surprised if.
Speaker B:If this was a British company that did this, that's fine.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, some of the best video games that take place in America are done by, like, French companies.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or, like, even Japanese companies.
Speaker B:It's funny because, like, an American company is responsible for arguably the greatest Japanese set game ever made, Ghost of Tsushima, to the point that the creator of Yakuza was literally just like, I can't believe we didn't make this.
Speaker B:This is an embarrassment to Japan that they made something this good.
Speaker B:But then at the same time, like I said, I've seen great games about America made in other countries.
Speaker C:And not only that, you have an American Movie the Patriot by starring an Australian.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:As the main guy.
Speaker C:Where I'm just like, what the is going on?
Speaker B:Wait, Mel Gibson.
Speaker C:Mel Gibson's the Patriot, right?
Speaker B:Is he Australian?
Speaker A:Yeah, and so is.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker A:And so is Heath Ledger.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Heath Ledger's in.
Speaker A:He's Australian.
Speaker B:I didn't realize he was Australian.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's how.
Speaker A: 's how he got into Mad Max in: Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He was an Australian film student.
Speaker C:Oh, we're taking our job, Seth.
Speaker B:Because he has an American accent.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:It's definitely gone away.
Speaker A:When he was younger, you could hear it.
Speaker A:But over the years, if you listen to old interviews, you can hear it.
Speaker A:But now it's very interesting.
Speaker A:That's also the alcoholism.
Speaker B:I mean, fair.
Speaker B:And the anti Semitism.
Speaker A:Now these.
Speaker C:Now that he's sober, but, you know, he's an American.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's an American now.
Speaker A:Damn it.
Speaker B:Come on, dude.
Speaker A:Last question.
Speaker A:Did Carl Urban have a mouth coach to keep his mouth at that perfect arch scowl?
Speaker A:I'll bet you he did the whole fucking movie.
Speaker A:And there are moments where it changes a little bit for pretty much the whole movie is the perfect scowl for that helmet.
Speaker B:Here's the biggest reason I love him as dread over Stallone.
Speaker B:I thought it was for the character they established in the first 20 minutes of the Judge Dredd movie.
Speaker B:Every time Sylvester Stallone had an emotional outbreak, I was like, this is completely out of character for who.
Speaker B:Who they've established.
Speaker B:Not once does Carl Urban break it.
Speaker B:Even though I.
Speaker B:The other thing I love, Sylvester Stallone's dread had no nuance whatsoever.
Speaker B:It was simply, here's the law.
Speaker B:We're going to follow the law.
Speaker B:Karl Urban's.
Speaker B:They make it very clear we can only respond to 6% of crimes.
Speaker B:So we have to decide which 6% we're going to go after.
Speaker B:So as they're walking by the homeless guy who's sitting at the front of the building, Sylvester Stallone would have gone up and been like, I'm killing you or I'm arresting you or whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Instead he's like, if you're here when I come back, then.
Speaker B:Then that's when I will deal with you.
Speaker B:But he, like, actually has a little bit of human nuance in how he deals with things.
Speaker B:And I think it added way more depth to the character.
Speaker C:It's kind of like training day, too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Where you have your.
Speaker C:You have your, like, superior officer that's kind of bending some rules here and there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Teaching the rookie how to get through.
Speaker C:Of course, it didn't play out like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:At all.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:It'd be kind of cool to see that chick smoke pcp.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:That'd be kind of neat.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Go Visit, I think.
Speaker C:Dr.
Speaker C:Dre.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Am I the only one who thought that you were about to get another dose of Anya?
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:When she first get.
Speaker B:When Olivia Thrillby first came on screen, I was like, is.
Speaker B:Is that Anya Taylor?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just need.
Speaker A:We've covered so much Anya lately.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:We had something furiosa than the Northman at this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:That's too much.
Speaker A:That's a lot of onion.
Speaker C:You'll od.
Speaker B:She does look like you'll slow mo.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, she does kind of look like her.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Also, Anya Taylor.
Speaker C:Joy.
Speaker C:I can't tell.
Speaker C:Do you think that she's hot?
Speaker C:Do y'all think she's hot or is it just like everybody else where.
Speaker C:It's like, she is.
Speaker C:She has.
Speaker B:All the eyes are a little weird.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:The whole face is kind of weird.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I'm not saying, like, I would kick her out of bed for eating crackers or nothing.
Speaker C:You know, I'm not just gonna be.
Speaker B:She's a London 10, but she's like a New Yorker.
Speaker B:LA 7.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I just don't know what she is.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's.
Speaker C:It's one of those deals where I'm like.
Speaker C:I think I'm supposed, like, my brain goes.
Speaker C:Yeah, we're attracted to her, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then the other part's like.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:It's like she is like.
Speaker C:Sometimes I look at, like, Beyonce where I'm like, she's so pretty.
Speaker C:I can't be attracted to.
Speaker A:Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then there's this one that's like.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:She's so weird.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That I.
Speaker C:I think I should be.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's definitely very unconventional.
Speaker C:Beauty.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But the hot chicken, this one, Lena, heavy.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:I think she's attractive.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anya Taylor.
Speaker A:Joyce says she got bullied for how she looked in high school.
Speaker A:Apparently in school, she.
Speaker A:She got made fun of a lot for how she looked.
Speaker B:Unfortunately, I'm not surprised.
Speaker C:Not one bit.
Speaker C:Not one bit.
Speaker C:Am I surprised about that?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Kids are vicious.
Speaker A:Yeah, they are vicious.
Speaker B:That's why I don't want kids.
Speaker A:I think she's.
Speaker A:I think she's doing okay now, though.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:She's like, the hardest.
Speaker A:Whatever you think.
Speaker A:She definitely is the hardest working actress currently.
Speaker A:She's yeah.
Speaker C:She's like sexually confusing me.
Speaker C:A middle aged nobody where I'm just like.
Speaker C:I think I'm supposed to, hey, you're a somebody.
Speaker B:You run the open mic at the east 8:30.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:While you're trying to think she's attractive or not, she just released her third series this year.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, does that make me hard?
Speaker C:What's going on?
Speaker A:You're a hard worker.
Speaker A:You have a great work ethic.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:Should I be boned up over this?
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:The menu was.
Speaker C:Could have been a Twilight Zone episode.
Speaker C:They could have just made this 30 minutes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But they had to show more of her.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I'm like, I guess that's good.
Speaker A:Rando.
Speaker B:Randos.
Speaker A:So the, the comic book fans were happier with this.
Speaker A:Obviously.
Speaker A:The helmet was a huge deal with Judge Dredd.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:The only time he doesn't have it on is when he's putting it on.
Speaker A:You don't see his face and he doesn't.
Speaker A:And I loved it.
Speaker A:Even as someone that didn't read the source material, I.
Speaker A:It's just a thing.
Speaker A:When you have a helmet as a character, you take it off at some point.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I kind of dug that.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:There's a lot of things uniquely to this that they did in this movie that I feel like they broke tropes to do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He never takes it off.
Speaker A:Even RoboCop takes off the helmet.
Speaker A:Darth Vader like the helmet off.
Speaker A:But here.
Speaker B:Well, they, they.
Speaker B:I like that they made it clear and realistic as you can.
Speaker B:That, yeah, he's going to take it off to go to sleep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But he takes upon that, that creed for himself.
Speaker B:That is, if he's in front of people, he's not taking off the mask.
Speaker B:Even though I, I do like that he points out that she left her helmet, but she's like, I have a reason.
Speaker B:Like I can't use the psychic stuff.
Speaker B:I have the helmet on.
Speaker C:And also just having two people.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker B:It would have been okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, this is awful.
Speaker A:This is kind of wild.
Speaker A:They were going to go much older with the actor before Carl Urban.
Speaker A:You're going to love this because I think you and I are in the same vibe.
Speaker A:Michael Bean.
Speaker C:Michael Bean.
Speaker A:Tell me who Michael Terminator as.
Speaker A:Not John Connor?
Speaker C:The liquid metal turn.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:Terminator 1.
Speaker A:How could I forget his name?
Speaker A:Kyle Reese.
Speaker A:Oh, Aliens.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Abyss.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:I don't think he would have done as good.
Speaker A:No, definitely not.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And also at the same time, I Didn't know this.
Speaker A:Michael Bean was also being considered for Mad Max alongside Tom Hardy.
Speaker A:He had to be in his 50s.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, I mean, I guess he did.
Speaker A:He wouldn't have done as much because I guess Max doesn't do a lot in Fury Road compared to someone else.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker A:I love Michael B.
Speaker A:I agree with you.
Speaker A:But it would have been a crazy.
Speaker A:Another sci fi feather for him because he's been in Terminator 1 and 2.
Speaker A:Flashbacks in Terminator 2, aliens in the Abyss.
Speaker A:I mean, he's like James Cameron's boy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:He would.
Speaker C:I don't know if he would be enough for Avatar having him be some sort of auxiliary character.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, you know, somewhere in the building or maybe like, you know, on the council or something.
Speaker B:Like, of course, he could have been really cool as, like, the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The top white henchmen.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:Which I gotta say, one of my favorite moments in the whole movie.
Speaker B:And with the girl I was watching it with, this.
Speaker B:This happened when he just walks up with him and throws him off the balcony and then just walks right back into the dust.
Speaker B:I'm just like.
Speaker B:If we'd been watching the other movie or, like, Sly would have tried to make some sort of shitty, like, remark and maybe a little speech, and then they would have tried to shoot him and then he would have run away.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Badass fucking moment.
Speaker B:Dude walks in, throws him off, and just says fuck it all and walks away.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Loved it.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker B:What a great moment.
Speaker C:I think that.
Speaker C:That Carl Urban sounded.
Speaker C:I'm so afraid of Jimmy Suburban.
Speaker C:Jimmy Suburban.
Speaker C:I'm so afraid of saying Keith Urban now.
Speaker B:I think both Australian Urbans.
Speaker C:So I think that he sounded.
Speaker C:I think he was modeling his voice.
Speaker C:Not after Stallone.
Speaker C:I think he was going dirty Hairy.
Speaker C:I have it written down.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker C:I think he was going for that then.
Speaker A:God, I love dirty hair.
Speaker C:What you want to do?
Speaker A:We're gonna.
Speaker A:We're gonna cover Dirty Harry at some point.
Speaker A:I'm obsessed with those movies.
Speaker C:Phenomenal.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And just considering at the time that they had.
Speaker C:What was it?
Speaker C:The Zodiac Killer running around, and then they had their version of the Zodiac Killer and they just decided, let's make a movie where an old kind of shitty cop.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Just kills this guy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then everybody will feel, okay.
Speaker A:He has the least efficient giant revolver that you don't need lugging it around.
Speaker C:Hold on.
Speaker C:Just like, pulling it out like.
Speaker C:Like a clown with a bunch of, like, you know, handkerchiefs or Whatever.
Speaker A:Such a badass, though.
Speaker A:I love that note.
Speaker A:That's really cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was trying to nail down.
Speaker A:It's funny you say that.
Speaker A:I was trying to think he's doing his own thing.
Speaker A:There are moments where it's got a little bit of the Stallone, but he's definitely made it his own.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker C:Well, he talks out of the side of his mouth like Stallone.
Speaker C:That's where he gets.
Speaker C:That's his homage to Salon.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then the rest is Clint East.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:This is one of the weirdest things ever.
Speaker A:So going back to the slow mo sounds.
Speaker A:The sound that that is.
Speaker A:They kick on when they do slow mo.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That is the sound of a baby by Justin bieber slowed down 800 times.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Ah, that's a fact.
Speaker A:That's a fact.
Speaker A:And I, I looked all over the place and I, I again, the Internet, this didn't have a commentary, so.
Speaker A:And you know me, I love commentaries.
Speaker A:When there's no commentary, I'm left to the Internet, which I hate.
Speaker A:But I found this multiple places, probably 80% accurate.
Speaker B:That's funny as hell.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Based on my sources.
Speaker B:I mean, I've done weird shit like that for my, my senior film.
Speaker B:For the background of the prison that I was shooting in.
Speaker B:I took whale noises and just low passed them.
Speaker B:So you'd only get the lowest frequencies kind of through every now and then.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Some like heavy reverb.
Speaker B:So no, it's.
Speaker B:It's always fun when as a sound designer you can do some fun shit like that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Throw something in there.
Speaker B:Be like, that's for me.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:And the fact that it's Justin Bieber makes it even.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I wonder if they had to license that.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's actually a question I had.
Speaker B:I mean, I wonder what the laws are, like, how much it has to be comprehensible as that thing.
Speaker C:What's the publishing house of this movie?
Speaker C:Maybe it was just like lumped in, where he's like, yeah, you can use music from our publishers.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then be like, okay, we'll take Justin Bieber.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:It definitely was a smaller distribution company.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:There wasn't.
Speaker B:There wasn't any big studio backing behind either of these two movies.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Or maybe there's some sort of law where if you just make it incomprehensible.
Speaker B:Well, that's the thing is I wonder what the threshold is as far as, like, if I can't recognize it as this thing, then you can use it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You can turn it into Paul's Boutique by the Beastie Boys.
Speaker C:Just be like, yeah, there's a million samples on here.
Speaker C:Your pick one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know why, but this conversation always reminds me of when you get an idea of rights.
Speaker A:I think about how the Verve made zero.
Speaker A:They lost money on Bittersweet Symphony because they illegally sampled that.
Speaker A:That stranger.
Speaker A:You know, it's a bit.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:They illegally sampled that.
Speaker A:They didn't get the.
Speaker A:You can go through the legal process and get it done, and you'll be fine.
Speaker A:You'll make money on it.
Speaker A:You just have to split it.
Speaker A:But they didn't do it right.
Speaker A:So every dime that they made.
Speaker A:And remember that was in Nike commercials.
Speaker A:They lost money due to lawsuits.
Speaker B:Vanilla Ice lost a fuck ton of money for Ice Ice Baby.
Speaker B:Because he didn't get permission to use the baseline from under pressure.
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So he literally is like, any.
Speaker B:I forget what.
Speaker B:What show it was in, but there was a joke where someone was like, ice, Ice.
Speaker B:He's like, stop.
Speaker B:I lose money when you say that.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker A:Oh, Mr.
Speaker A:Van Winkle.
Speaker A:This is interesting.
Speaker A:Olivia.
Speaker A:Is it?
Speaker A:Thoroughly.
Speaker B:It looked like thrill be.
Speaker A:Thrill be.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:God, they just keep throwing fucking names at me, dude.
Speaker A:The Northman, all those Scandinavian names.
Speaker A:I was, like, trying to pronounce, like the dots on the.
Speaker A:You know, on the O's.
Speaker A:Because of that, she wanted to stay committed.
Speaker A:So I guess the character that she's based on in the comics had the Bob that.
Speaker A:That blonde Bob.
Speaker A:I guess that's called a Bob, according to this.
Speaker B:And she just an above the shoulder cut.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Is that what that means?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Bobbing for apples.
Speaker A:She had to redo her roots every nine days because her hair kept growing out so fast.
Speaker A:I guess that was.
Speaker A:What was the.
Speaker A:What was the Roots budget probably just boxed.
Speaker B:So like, 10 bucks every nine days.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And see, this is what happens when I don't have a commentary.
Speaker A:This is the kind of factoids I'm left with.
Speaker A:Absolute dog.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Just the hair does.
Speaker A:Because usually I want highbrow.
Speaker A:I want to be like this camera, this.
Speaker A:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:We're down to Roots.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Roots.
Speaker A:We're down to roots.
Speaker A:And the last fact.
Speaker A:Back to the helmet.
Speaker A:So actually, no, this is.
Speaker A:This is actually.
Speaker A:Didn't have to.
Speaker A:I have lumped these two things together.
Speaker A:This is crazy.
Speaker A:Pete Travis was the original director of this, and they turned in the.
Speaker A:The final cut.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they hated it.
Speaker A:And so they fired him.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:What a Lot of people say, and I'm trying to remember who the actor who said this.
Speaker A:Oh, Carl Urban actually said this.
Speaker A:That this really should be considered Alex Garland's directorial debut.
Speaker A:Because once Pete Travis was fired, Garland took over and ended up directing a ton of the movie.
Speaker A:But then before they released it, they actually rehired Pete Travis and they worked together.
Speaker A:I guess he felt bad he got fired.
Speaker A:But apparently Garland, this was should have been, not Ex Machina, which is a lot of people say that's his director, his official.
Speaker A:But he apparently directed large portions of this movie.
Speaker B:So did they reshoot it like.
Speaker B:Or did they not like the script?
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They just didn't like the final cut.
Speaker A:So I do.
Speaker A:I do think there were reshoots.
Speaker A:Yeah, there were.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:There were direct.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Reshoots.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Once again, just for shits and giggles, I would love to see what the original cut of this look like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:This one for the opposite reason.
Speaker B:This one turned out so good.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I would love to see what they deemed, like, not good.
Speaker B:Because if this is one of the few cases.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Where, like, executives actually made the movie better, I'm into it.
Speaker B:Like, yeah.
Speaker B:More smart executives like these.
Speaker C:No kidding.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And apparently, apparently they.
Speaker A:Travis kept.
Speaker A:I guess Urban's like a die hard fan of the comics and he kept trying to get him to take the helmet off scenes and he refused.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Urban kept saying, no, we're going to do it.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:And so he never would take off the helmet.
Speaker B:God, good for him.
Speaker B:Him and Henry Cavill are like the only two actors left who are, like, standing up for.
Speaker B:And I'm like, no, we're going to follow the source material.
Speaker A:Hey, sometimes it's good.
Speaker A:The crossroads, as Josh said.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:The crossroads.
Speaker C:You could follow it.
Speaker C:But also, I mean, first of all, reshoots have got to be just awful to do as an actor, to be like, I haven't done this in a year and I'm getting called back.
Speaker C:I have to break whatever I'm doing now to try to figure out what I was doing then and all that stuff.
Speaker A:I'm playing an anorexic cat now.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Because for the record, for people who don't understand the difference, there is a difference between pickups and reshoots.
Speaker B:Pickups are when you go back to already existing scenes and you've put everything together and you find three shots that either you might be missing, like one.
Speaker B:One insert shot for something, or you need just a slightly tweaked delivery on a certain line.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So you go back, you reset the setup, you make sure everyone looks exactly like they did on the day of the take that you're using, and they go and re record those moments.
Speaker B:Reshoots is when there have been rewrites done and you're shooting new stuff.
Speaker B:You're reshooting new sections of the move.
Speaker B:So that's for.
Speaker B:For the.
Speaker B:On Reddit, who.
Speaker B:Who yelled at me because I thought it was funny that James Gunn was like, oh, I never do reshoots or pickups on my movies because I.
Speaker B:I rehearse well.
Speaker B:And then he came in and did pickups for Superman.
Speaker B:For all you fuckers who downvoted me, there's a difference.
Speaker A:He's still banned from the Snyder Reddit.
Speaker B:I am.
Speaker B:I don't care.
Speaker B:I'm not bitter.
Speaker C:I'm banned from the Nashville Reddit.
Speaker B:Oh, really?
Speaker B:Oh, what'd you do?
Speaker C:So, for you historians, but I have to know, for you historians, there was a.
Speaker C: ent off in downtown Nashville: Speaker C:2020 on Christmas.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And this was.
Speaker C:So there's plenty of people that every time somebody's like, I thought I hear gunshots.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:On, like, the Nashville subreddit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:People are like, welcome to North Nashville.
Speaker C:Welcome to East Nashville.
Speaker C:And just make fun of it.
Speaker C:Something h.
Speaker C:Bad happens to somebody, everybody's making fun of it.
Speaker C:So I got online and I found a.
Speaker C:A border of like, Merry Christmas.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I put Happy Holidays from Nashville.
Speaker C:And in the middle, I took a screenshot of a nuclear bomb going.
Speaker C:And I posted.
Speaker C:And I look back a few, five, ten minutes later, and like, one of the top comments was, I know what you're doing.
Speaker C:I find this funny.
Speaker C:But you're going to be banned.
Speaker C:And everybody.
Speaker C:And everybody else was like, you're an insensitive piece of.
Speaker C:Yeah, people die.
Speaker C:Only one person died, except for the.
Speaker B:Guy who sent the palm off.
Speaker C:That's what got me.
Speaker C:And I instantly went.
Speaker C:Whenever I read band and other people are like, you deserve to be banned.
Speaker C:I instantly deleted it because I was.
Speaker C:I don't want to be banned.
Speaker C:And then I got something where I'm not allowed to post.
Speaker B:You can still creep, but you can't post.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So they understood what I was going for, but they're just like, now we can't.
Speaker A:Dude.
Speaker C:There was dogs loose in my neighborhood with collars on.
Speaker C:I was like, oh, just put this on national subreddit.
Speaker C:And this was like, three years later.
Speaker C:And I was like, why won't it.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, dude.
Speaker A:I used to do a bit about that.
Speaker A:About the bomb because you ever know people that sympathy crawl, like, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, like they mark themselves safe from a thing that happens 300 miles away.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like so many people I knew that like, live in Murfreesboro and Franklin.
Speaker A:Thanks for all the people that checked in to make sure I was safe.
Speaker A:It's like, dude, you were 40 miles away.
Speaker C:You were.
Speaker A:You're in the woods.
Speaker A:Like, no one gives a about you.
Speaker C:My mom guilted my sister pretty hard.
Speaker C:I like, called my mom, you know, like cell services going in and out.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I was like, mom, there was a bombing here.
Speaker C:So I was like, you'll see it on the news.
Speaker C:Trust me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So next thing you know, like an hour or so later, my sister calls and she's just like, are you ok?
Speaker C:I was like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:She was like, mom called me and said that you just survived a terrorist attack.
Speaker C:And I was like, no, that was miles away from.
Speaker C:Yeah, but it was loud enough to wake other people up that weren't can drunk like I was.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:No, I heard people could hear it in Franklin.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, I'm sure that's crazy.
Speaker B:Anywho, we don't.
Speaker A:We don't approve of bombing.
Speaker B:That was a great.
Speaker C:I forget where all that was going.
Speaker B:Side tangent Reddit.
Speaker A:That's where that is.
Speaker B:That's where it came from was me being banned from the Snyder cut.
Speaker A:I hate Reddit so much.
Speaker A:There's so much negativity.
Speaker C:It's my only addiction.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker C:Well, I mean, the nicotine that I had to spit out before we started this other stuff, but that's my only, like, Internet addiction.
Speaker B:I had to.
Speaker B:I had to cut it off.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I deleted it.
Speaker B:It was too much.
Speaker C:It's coming soon.
Speaker A:Everyone's so negative.
Speaker A:Shall we.
Speaker A:How do we.
Speaker A:How do we change course back to.
Speaker B:You better leave all of that in.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, I will.
Speaker A:That was amazing.
Speaker B:It's a great worried.
Speaker C:That was such a good say anything into a mic that I am even remotely worried about.
Speaker A:If I didn't want side tangents, then I.
Speaker A:Comedians are the wrong people.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because you'll be like, so Carl Urban did a great job in this.
Speaker C:I'm like, yeah.
Speaker C:It reminds me of this one time.
Speaker C:I was like.
Speaker C:I was going shopping.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I played at a bomb.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I played a bomb somewhere.
Speaker C:Ready?
Speaker C:Kicked me off.
Speaker B:Keith Urban showed up.
Speaker A:It was wild.
Speaker A:Good movie.
Speaker C:A plus five stars.
Speaker A:Shall we be tough?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Shall we commandeer an entire mega building?
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker A:Let's war as A reminder.
Speaker A:The Yes, I love it.
Speaker A:Affirmative.
Speaker A:I am the law.
Speaker A:And the negative.
Speaker A:I don't like it.
Speaker A:I don't dig it.
Speaker A:Don't be judgy.
Speaker A:Top Bill cast stars.
Speaker A:Carl Urban, Carl Jr.
Speaker A:Remember Carl's Jr.
Speaker A:Why is it plural or why is it possessive?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Olivia, Thor.
Speaker A:Why is that so hard to say?
Speaker B:Thrill.
Speaker A:Th.
Speaker C:Be.
Speaker A:That's so.
Speaker A:These damn names.
Speaker A:And Lena.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:I can't say any of them.
Speaker A:I literally can't say names.
Speaker A:If it's not Arnold or Sly, I don't know how to say it.
Speaker A:What do y'all think?
Speaker B:Everyone kicked ass.
Speaker B:Everyone clearly was into what was going on.
Speaker B:Again, I don't know how much was reshot and how much was on the original, but regardless, I think it's a good thing.
Speaker B:You can't tell what was reshot and what was original.
Speaker B:It all flowed seamlessly together.
Speaker B:Everyone's performances were insanely consistent.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it's, It's.
Speaker B:I went so negative on the other one, I completely forgot.
Speaker B:I am the law.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I go, I am the law on this one.
Speaker A:Yeah, baby.
Speaker C:Yeah, ditto.
Speaker C:I am the law.
Speaker C:They just got a better group of actors together, basically, that possibly knew the source material.
Speaker B:I wish Rob Schneider had still been in it.
Speaker C:If he would just be, like, a crazy person if he was the homeless person.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Phenomenal.
Speaker A:The Cajun.
Speaker C:Phenomenal.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I go, I am the law, too, here.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:You know, I.
Speaker A:I loved.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I tried to separate.
Speaker A:I was trying actually not to compare the two movies because I do think they're so inspired differently.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But if you do look at it comparatively, it's a huge step up from Sly.
Speaker A:And I really thought Carl Urban physically as an actor.
Speaker A:And I made a joke earlier about his mouth, but, like, I kept looking at his mouth.
Speaker A:Like, I was like, he's even, like.
Speaker A:That almost became part of the helmet.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:His facial expression was like.
Speaker A:He's got such a main scowl.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the five o'clock shadow was just right, like, so good.
Speaker A:Everything about his physical presence.
Speaker A:I love how he delivered lines.
Speaker A:I loved Lena Heady.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I'll get terrifying as a villain.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And we have a category we'll dive into deeper because I, I.
Speaker A:One of my biggest complaints about tropes is just very normal, casual, same villain archetypes over and over again.
Speaker A:Not only was this a different type of villain, but the way she played.
Speaker A:She almost played her.
Speaker A:Even though she's vicious, she's soft, too.
Speaker A:I was like, there's a lot of complexity happening.
Speaker B:Well, with a name like Mama, I feel like.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I will say that was one of the few things that it was just like the number of times they kept saying I was.
Speaker A:Yeah, okay.
Speaker B:But when you do have a name like Mama, like, the whole point is, I feel like with her you have to be disarmingly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like soft.
Speaker B:Just so it hurts more when you rip their dick off.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's a good description.
Speaker C:I like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:She's one tough.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I am the law.
Speaker A:One to zero.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker A:We are cooking with gas.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker A:Supporting cast.
Speaker A:And I just put.
Speaker A:Because there's a lot of folks didn't know as well, but Warwick Greer as Caleb and who one person I love, Wood Harris, is k.
Speaker A:Was phenomenal on the Wire.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Phenomenal in the way.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Who is he in the Wire?
Speaker A:He's in the very first season.
Speaker A:He's the main bad guy that the.
Speaker A:What's his name?
Speaker A:He's Avon Barksdale.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I've felt slightly racist for watching it and just being like, I think that's Barksdale.
Speaker C:And then I went, oh, come on, stop.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then I literally never looked it up, so I don't know.
Speaker C:So that right there is so reassuring.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He's done a ton of though.
Speaker A:Like, he's been a lot.
Speaker A:He was in the new Blade Runner.
Speaker A:Oh, he was an ant man.
Speaker A:Remember the Titans?
Speaker A:He has done a ton of shit.
Speaker A:But my favorite is Avon Barksdale.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, they knocked eight Bomb Barksdale out of the park.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:I think everyone did a really good job.
Speaker B:I think every little side character that we met, down to the woman in the apartment building, to the guy in the medical center, to the couple of villains, which I'm sure we'll talk about later.
Speaker B:But like, all the little side characters, I loved how memorable they all were.
Speaker B:Like, you walk out of it, I couldn't tell you any of the actors names and I couldn't tell you most the characters names, but I could tell you which character had done what thing.
Speaker B:Even down to the dude that she killed and then found out was the woman's husband.
Speaker B:Like all of those little moments, I think everybody did a crazy good job.
Speaker B:So it's definitely an eye on the law for me.
Speaker C:Same here.
Speaker C:I do believe that scene after she executes the dude and then sees like, you know, his wife and baby and stuff in there in the picture, I feel like they just drug that out a little bit too long.
Speaker B:A little bit.
Speaker B:I feel like, tiny bit.
Speaker C:I think it should have been, like, them going in there to seek refuge and being like, you shut up.
Speaker C:And all this stuff is what.
Speaker C:How I would, like.
Speaker C:Yeah, just go in there and kind of be mean to her.
Speaker C:And then she glances over as they're leaving and sees that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And almost do it like a Coen brothers thing.
Speaker C:But I just love the Coen brothers there.
Speaker C:So not saying anything.
Speaker C:She looks over and then it's just her, like, you know, walking towards the camera just like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, oh, I up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker B:Yeah, I.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:I could see it going both ways.
Speaker B:Regardless, I felt the moment still worked.
Speaker C:Yeah, it definitely worked.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So what's your vote?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I am the law.
Speaker C:It's great.
Speaker A:I am the law.
Speaker A:I want to mention one more person because I.
Speaker A:I just remembered a performance I loved.
Speaker A:And I'm glad I mentioned this because Dom Nall Gleason.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Plays the techie guy with the long hair.
Speaker B:He's so good.
Speaker A:I loved his performance here.
Speaker A:And because he is almost like he.
Speaker A:He put off this.
Speaker A:Like he's there by force.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I loved it.
Speaker A:And then I went and looked at his IMDb.
Speaker A:I was trying to remember what else.
Speaker A:I loved him.
Speaker A:He was the captain in the Revenant.
Speaker B:I haven't seen the Revenant.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's one of the few movies.
Speaker B:If you suggest we do it, I will absolutely 100% say no.
Speaker A:The most.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker C:You won't?
Speaker B:I refuse.
Speaker B:The director almost killed seven crew members.
Speaker B:And I refuse to watch any movie made by someone while making that movie.
Speaker A:Yeah, because that movie was vicious.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Even Leonardo DiCaprio.
Speaker B:There's no excuse to ever put any crew member in danger.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker B:Any movie.
Speaker C:I agree.
Speaker B:Zero respect.
Speaker B:It's a movie.
Speaker B:I don't care how great of an art piece it is, is a movie.
Speaker B:No one's life is worth making a movie.
Speaker A:Leo got really sick.
Speaker A:Like, the whole cast got ill.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because they were in the actual Canadian winter.
Speaker B:I refuse.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:I will never watch that movie out of.
Speaker B:Out of protest.
Speaker A:How do they let that happen?
Speaker C:Just wait for Kyle to start going, please.
Speaker A:You won't do it.
Speaker A:It's the most beautiful 4K rendering I've ever seen.
Speaker C:It is amazing.
Speaker B:I'm sure it is.
Speaker B:I will never see it.
Speaker C:I made a huge mistake about seeing it.
Speaker C:And not 40x, but.
Speaker C:What's the one with, like, the big encompassing sound?
Speaker B:Oh, Atmos.
Speaker B:Dolby Atmos, something like that.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker C:It wasn't on imax but it was definitely a bigger screen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it was just like the sound was.
Speaker C:So whenever they were in the forest and they really cranked up the woods.
Speaker C:Sound.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:I was like, I'm going to go fucking crazy.
Speaker B:Look.
Speaker C:I was like, there is no moment of silence in this film.
Speaker B:I'm not going to say it's a bad movie.
Speaker B:I'm not going to say anything negative about the movie.
Speaker B:I will never watch it.
Speaker A:I didn't know that.
Speaker B:No person's life is worth.
Speaker A:You're totally right.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Like, that's why I even.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:I think it's absurd.
Speaker B:They finished Rust.
Speaker B:Like, I think they finished that.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They finished it and they're releasing it.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:I genuinely think Alec Baldwin, as a.
Speaker B:As the producer and the actor holding the gun and whoever was.
Speaker B:Who was the props master on that, both need to be in jail.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because there are rumors that he was absolutely hammered drunk all the time on that set.
Speaker A:Baldwin.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He's a dick.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's an absolute dick.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think it's absurd that they decided to finish that movie.
Speaker B:They should have left it and just moved on.
Speaker C:I agree.
Speaker C:Nobody should die for a movie.
Speaker C:But it's good to hear old Hollywood's back about you.
Speaker C:Let's make the product.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Keep tweeting about politics, you're going to get crushed by a prop.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm a democratic socialist.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:The sun's falling up.
Speaker B:It's on fire.
Speaker B:The North Tower.
Speaker C:Now you guys got to come watch it or else he died in vain.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's true.
Speaker A:But Dominog Gleason's fantastic in the Revenant.
Speaker A:So anyway, he was one of my favorites.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I give this a total.
Speaker A:I am the law.
Speaker A:I thought I even liked some of the.
Speaker A:Just the.
Speaker A:I even really liked.
Speaker A:I don't even.
Speaker A:You won't even name them, but the criminals at the very beginning in the.
Speaker A:In the first car.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I really loved how they.
Speaker A:They portrayed.
Speaker A:That's your first introduction to Slow Mo.
Speaker A:And, like, I love how they pulled that off.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And I love how they seamlessly used that to bring you into the.
Speaker B:The high density unit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like there's no reason otherwise that they went to go in there.
Speaker B:Like, it's just.
Speaker B:It's so good.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Two to zero.
Speaker A:We are the law writing.
Speaker A:And a young Alex Garland here, and the resume is getting stacked up for him.
Speaker A:He wrote Men, the A24 movie.
Speaker A:Civil War Annihilation, Ex Machina.
Speaker A:I mean, good for him, he's really.
Speaker A:And some of those he also directed, I believe.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I am gonna, I am gonna have to preface this by saying this is a squeak over.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:I am going to go.
Speaker B:I am the law on this.
Speaker B:But as is the problem with 90% of action movies I've ever seen, the biggest flaw in this movie, and it's not even that much of a flaw, but it is.
Speaker B:The biggest flaw of the movie is there is very little depth to the writing.
Speaker B:Yes, the world building is really good.
Speaker B:The story it tells is really good.
Speaker B:But it is a very simple script, which is fine.
Speaker B:There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker B:But if we're just going to judge the script, the writing itself, it's all right.
Speaker B:It's nothing groundbreaking as a script.
Speaker B:It's an incredible movie.
Speaker B:But this is probably the weakest part.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But still, I am the law, like just squeaks over for me.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker C:I mean they're just going for a romp.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like you said, there's no depth.
Speaker C:I don't think that they even had an ink.
Speaker C:They're like, this is not going to be making sequels.
Speaker C:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:Well, I know they were hoping it would, of course.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was really bummed that there haven't been after I watched this.
Speaker A:Like, man, I know I'm catching.
Speaker B:So Carl Urban, he.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's upset that there hasn't been a sequel.
Speaker A:His portrayal alone was like, I wanted to see him do this again.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:I think the two of them would work really well together again.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But there's always the fear that you just water it down.
Speaker C:You have to put more depth in it into something that sort of doesn't need it.
Speaker C:Need it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean your auxiliary characters.
Speaker C:I don't need to know anything more about Judge Dread.
Speaker C:I don't need to know that he was born in a test tube.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Any of that.
Speaker C:He's a judge and that's all he does.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And I think that's where they would up if they kept going.
Speaker B:Problem possibly.
Speaker B:You know, again, I don't know enough about the source material to know like where they could go with the story that's.
Speaker B:That's true to the actual ip.
Speaker B:So I have no clue.
Speaker B:But yeah.
Speaker B:Would have enjoyed it.
Speaker B:I'm glad that it stands alone by itself and isn't up by having more attempts at trying to do it.
Speaker C:But I would like to know the.
Speaker C:The person that decided to put a hot chick as a woman that can Read your thoughts.
Speaker C:What kind of monster that person was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:What kind of nightmare is that?
Speaker A:She's a mutant.
Speaker C:Yeah, she's a mutant.
Speaker C:So you have a hot chick, you see her, and then she can instantly tell what you're thinking about.
Speaker C:That's a nut.
Speaker A:And 99 of people's like, I think you're hot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:We'll just be like.
Speaker C:Or just 99.
Speaker C:Like, dudes would just walk in and be like, damn.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, that was a whole great moment with her.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And the one henchman were.
Speaker B:He's just like.
Speaker B:Like, she's like, what do you.
Speaker B:What am I thinking?
Speaker B:Or.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's like, what am I thinking?
Speaker B:She's like, oh, you're thinking about having sex with me to shock me.
Speaker B:And he's like, oh, no.
Speaker B:You want to be shocked?
Speaker B:And then tries to shock her, and then she comes back later and just him up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker C:But also, at the same time, you're just trying to be nice to a lady that you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And your brain as a man.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You're just like.
Speaker B:I do love that moment where she's like, he's thinking about going for your gun.
Speaker B:He's changed his mind.
Speaker A:And then he goes.
Speaker A:And then Dre goes, yep, yep.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker A:That was good.
Speaker A:Yeah, I.
Speaker A:Gosh, I.
Speaker A:I went back and forth on this one because I.
Speaker A:I basically agree with you.
Speaker B:Like, there's a lot of good but not a lot of substance.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, I can't because, like, when I watch Commando, I.
Speaker A:I would totally just give that a.
Speaker A:A plus.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:That's literally some of the most empty writing, but it serves the story.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, I.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:I do think it's a squeak over if I'm gonna use Seth's unique squeak.
Speaker A:Squeak by scale.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I do think it's an over.
Speaker A:It serves the story.
Speaker A:There are some loopholes and a couple of things that kind of don't make sense, but ultimately, yeah, I.
Speaker A:I dug it.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think it really comes down to how well do they write Dread?
Speaker A:That was, to me, was the most important thing.
Speaker A:And they wrote him exponentially better than he was written in Jeff.
Speaker B:Well, they went the opposite direction than Sly.
Speaker B:Sly gave himself as many lines as he could possibly get.
Speaker B:And Carl Urban, probably.
Speaker B:I can't say that he said this, but I.
Speaker B:I assuming from his love of the comics, he was like, give me the least amount of words I need to say to get everything across.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:I think that played into the benefit of the character.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The economy of words as far as if you're going to try to get a stoic, like old school badass dude.
Speaker C:I mean, look at Clint Eastwood's character, Blondie and a lot of those.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Spaghetti westerns and stuff.
Speaker C:I mean, he, he never spoke.
Speaker C:He was the man with no name.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, and then you bring this bad guy out that are not bad guy.
Speaker C:Well, he's a badass guy, I guess you would say.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You don't want to hear him be like, here's my thoughts.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Here's my thoughts on racism.
Speaker C:But he would give you exactly what he was thinking.
Speaker C:Like whenever he told her, he's like, yeah, we're going to get rushed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And yeah, you're.
Speaker C:We're low on conserve ammo.
Speaker C:And how did he put it?
Speaker C:Something like about like, you know, killing yourself before they take it you.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Because you're not going to want to be subjected to what they'll subject you to.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:And I was just like, that's good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I was like, that's so solid.
Speaker C:He's like, this is what you need to know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:He's like, he's very much a robot that does the law stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He wasn't joking around.
Speaker C:He wasn't having a good time.
Speaker C:He's like, this is my, this is my job.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm going to try to keep you alive, but probably not.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I'm getting out of here.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's the plot filler.
Speaker B:Without making you feel like you're listening to someone.
Speaker B:Just, just explain the plot.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There were enough of those moments to balance out, balance out the shallowness to me.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And they also.
Speaker C:I don't know if this was a reason why they moved it fast, but like you say, there's not a lot of depth.
Speaker C:There's not a lot of depth in the movie whatsoever.
Speaker C:So they just move it really fast.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So you don't have time to be like, wait, what?
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:It's just the next scene and I.
Speaker B:Think it's to its benefit.
Speaker B:We'll talk about this in the, in the, in the, the visual side.
Speaker B:But yeah, no, I agree with that a lot.
Speaker A:I just remember the scene that, that was kind of mind boggling to me that I did not like.
Speaker A:It was when she pays off the other judges.
Speaker A:I, I just was like, that's a, that's an okay trope to use, but we really don't have an idea of a monetary system in this world.
Speaker A:And I'm like thinking like, we're not connected to these judges.
Speaker A:So it didn't really sting me that hard that they were so quick to take her the million credits.
Speaker A:And I was like, we haven't.
Speaker A:Money's not been a thing.
Speaker A:It's not been a motivator in this world at all.
Speaker A:Because most people don't have it.
Speaker A:And judges to me are.
Speaker A:They're such a almost like deity in this world.
Speaker A:I think of them as almost deities.
Speaker A:They are the judge, jury, executioner.
Speaker A:They are the.
Speaker A:They're the law.
Speaker A:And we don't know these other judges.
Speaker A:This is the first time we're meeting and we don't get to know them at all.
Speaker A:So why am I supposed to like care?
Speaker A:I have no moral.
Speaker A:No moral quandary in this because like, well, I didn't.
Speaker A:I didn't think this was a good guy.
Speaker A:Because my first meeting with him is they're already being bought off.
Speaker A:And I was like, it was just a really fast, simple trope that they put in there.
Speaker A:That was my.
Speaker A:Again, it's a.
Speaker A:It's a squeak over and there's more positive than negative.
Speaker A:But that one thing.
Speaker A:Really annoyed.
Speaker A:I remember being on the treadmill actually watching that scene with my noise canceling phones and I was like, what the.
Speaker A:I was like, really?
Speaker A:We're just gonna.
Speaker A:Just pay off these judges.
Speaker A:We don't know that we're not attached to.
Speaker A:And like I'm supposed to care that there's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think really it.
Speaker B:It served to showcase because they are talking about how she's supplying multiple density units and she's trying to get the whole city.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it shows that she is connected to the inner workings of the government.
Speaker B:It does show the corruption that he's trying so desperately to not.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Any type of part of.
Speaker B:To hit to.
Speaker B:To Carl Urban's dread.
Speaker B:He's very much.
Speaker B:Like I said, this is the law.
Speaker B:I'm gonna follow the law.
Speaker B:Despite the nuance of.
Speaker B:We can only.
Speaker B:We can only basically enforce 6% of the law.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And this may be where they were afraid too because the old one spent too much time at the internal workings of the.
Speaker A:What are they called?
Speaker A:Like the board and all that.
Speaker A:We could have used a little bit about.
Speaker A:I think that here.
Speaker A:Just a dose just to get a little more exposed to this.
Speaker A:This entity that is the judges agreed just to give me a little background to why this matters are getting paid off.
Speaker A:But if I would rather this situation than in Judge Dread when we're living in the boardroom.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm Just like, I'm done with these.
Speaker B:What's crazy is these two movies are the same length.
Speaker B:They're both an hour and a half long, and this felt so much shorter, this win.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, the go with, like, bringing in the other Judges to fight Dread.
Speaker C:I mean, it's Superman, too.
Speaker C:It's Zodiac.
Speaker C:Like, you basically have already established in that short amount of time that Judge Dredd is damn near unstoppable.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker C:And who else but level the playing field, Bring in Judges.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So, I mean, I get it that way, but also understand.
Speaker C:It's like, whenever they showed up, I literally had to be like, oh, it's Judges.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It definitely wasn't out of place, but it could have been written in better.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:Speaking of the other Judge, I love it when he's operating on himself.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What does he say about the He.
Speaker A:The field?
Speaker A:Like, something.
Speaker A:Field dressing.
Speaker B:Field dressing.
Speaker A:But he calls it like a.
Speaker A:He, like, rates it.
Speaker A:It's like, this is your usual or your.
Speaker A:I can't remember.
Speaker A:It's like standard field dressing.
Speaker A:It's like, in the moment, he's, like, still administering the law.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:This is a standard.
Speaker A:I actually love that.
Speaker A:I was like, that's so in character.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's so good.
Speaker A:Speaking of that, he.
Speaker A:I didn't mention, just in randomness, but he didn't take his helmet off between scenes either.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker A:He left it on for him.
Speaker A:He was judged dread the whole time.
Speaker A:So, like, even when they weren't shooting, he left the helmet on.
Speaker A:Can you imagine?
Speaker A:Like, it's one thing to be with Daniel Day Lewis always being Daniel Plainview.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But you're with a guy with a helmet.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And at a certain point, they probably forget, like, oh, that's some actor.
Speaker A:I don't know who that is.
Speaker B:Well, fortunate for him, his mouth was visible so he could eat.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's true.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What do they.
Speaker A:What do Judges eat?
Speaker A:Huh?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker C:It is recycled food in the first one.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker A:That is true.
Speaker C:Just a spaghetti robot and see if.
Speaker B:They wouldn't eat justice.
Speaker A:And that's the thing.
Speaker A:If they would have made more, they could have sprinkled in more.
Speaker A:Because now I feel like, oh, this team, the Alex Garland, Carl Urban unit, they get this world.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So now I'm like, well, give me two more.
Speaker A:I want to see that expand a little bit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:They didn't.
Speaker A:So directing, it's three to zero.
Speaker A:Pete Travis, but in parentheses, Alex Garland.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think, again, have no idea what the Original cut looked like.
Speaker B:And apparently it was worse.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But what we got, whoever ended up being in charge of it, they did a great job.
Speaker B:This is almost like the exact opposite of this, of, like, the Justice League Snyder cut situation, where it's like.
Speaker B:Like, you have Snyder's vision.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker B:He was doing everything he could to pull it under three hours, and then they handed off to Joss Whedon.
Speaker B:And Joss Whedon's just like, I'll keep 45 minutes of your movie, and then I'll just shoot a totally different movie.
Speaker B:Like, on the other hand, you have this now where it's like, this isn't quite hitting it.
Speaker B:Let's bring in someone else and let's.
Speaker B:Let's figure this out.
Speaker B:And it turned out so good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I give it an I am the law.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I am the law.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I don't know anything I could really add.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Other than they just understood what they were doing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:They were just like, this is what this is.
Speaker C:And I think that's where a lot of these big IPs being sold to get to be made.
Speaker C:Like your Judge Dread and stuff like that.
Speaker C:That's where they always.
Speaker C:I can't think of another one.
Speaker C:Because we just watch these movies.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But where they just missed the mark because they just kind of go, okay, well, this is.
Speaker C:Whatever.
Speaker C:In book form.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So in order to make it a movie, we have to do this.
Speaker C:And you have to have comic relief.
Speaker C:And we have to do this so the women will come out, and we have to do this so the kids will buy toys and all this.
Speaker C:And this did not care one iota about that.
Speaker C:They were like, we're making this movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And this is how it moves, and this is how it ends.
Speaker C:Good night, everybody.
Speaker A:It's funny you say that.
Speaker A:I bought my kids the.
Speaker A:The mama hooker toy.
Speaker C:That's funny because I bought my mom the slow mo.
Speaker B:That's awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So every time you come over, she's.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:It would be funny if you are moving like that, like just slowly moving your hand, but water's just falling completely, like in real time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Everything's an experience.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I go.
Speaker A:I go, I am the law here.
Speaker A:I think it's interesting.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:I think of pace a different way.
Speaker A:Like, I look at pace as how it's being edited.
Speaker A:So that's one aspect.
Speaker A:But as a director, pace is like, what kind of movement did you make?
Speaker A:And it's like you said, it felt shorter.
Speaker A:It absolutely felt shorter.
Speaker A:And the other one absolutely felt forever long.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because I wasn't enjoying it.
Speaker A:But this one, like, it was such a, like just, it just boom, boom, boom.
Speaker A:And I feel like, you know, you can call that editing in a different category.
Speaker A:But as a director, like the vision they saw, like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:There was just no punches pulled.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's a few writing things I didn't dig.
Speaker A:But at the end of the day, the directing, like, I feel like they delivered a really fast.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Fun.
Speaker A:And there's something to be said for just a fast, fun ride.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because so many movies today, like there is a pressure I think because of the failure of cinema right now in theaters.
Speaker A:Like they make movies really long.
Speaker A:I was like, we got to give them something big.
Speaker B:But you know, $25.
Speaker B:Come see this movie.
Speaker B:It better be three hours.
Speaker A:But all the Arnold romps that you and I seem to love mutually, like hour and a half.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it was just hour and a half.
Speaker A:Punch in the gut.
Speaker A:And it was like, that was fun.
Speaker C:Said it a million times.
Speaker C:90 minutes might be the best for damn near any movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:90 minutes get you in, get you out.
Speaker C:I mean, occasionally.
Speaker C:Like I love no country for Old Men.
Speaker C:I think it might be one of the greatest works of cinema ever.
Speaker A:Totally agree.
Speaker C:And it's, I guess it's like two and a half hours.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But it doesn't feel like it.
Speaker C:Yeah, well, it didn't to me.
Speaker B:It's also not an action movie.
Speaker B:It is, it is a bit of a slower burn and it is especially like a drama.
Speaker B:So depending on the genre, I think comedy no more than 90 minutes.
Speaker B:Like 90 minutes is perfect for action.
Speaker B:You have a window between 90 minutes and two hours where you can make a fantastic movie.
Speaker B:Outside of that, you better have other elements of drama or comedy or whatever genre you're choosing to infuse in there to fill in the gaps of what should be a 90 minute action.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:If you're doing a two hour action movie, that best be mostly action.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because if you're just giving me or.
Speaker B:Have some incredible depth and drama to.
Speaker C:The character, I'll go, I would rather take the action at that point.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:But it's like if it's going to.
Speaker C:Be like you're going to give me big and then you give me a low, the better.
Speaker C:Give me real big after that.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker B:But again, sometimes the action can be heightened when you, when you have reasons to care for the characters.
Speaker B:So that's where I'm like, if you're going to make it a two hour movie.
Speaker B:I better have all of the emotional depth to the characters where I want to keep watching for two hours.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because I don't want to watch Heat every time I sit down to watch an action movie.
Speaker C:But that movie had plenty of action.
Speaker C:But you had to get all that drama going.
Speaker C:Yeah, but in this we talked about upgrade just a bit.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm trying to think of another one right off the top of my head.
Speaker B:I did.
Speaker C:Just move it.
Speaker C:Just take me through.
Speaker C:Because whenever I go, if I see a sliced alone, borderline clone coming out, I don't give me any.
Speaker C:Give me all jelly and no peanut butter.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, I just want the sweets.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Give me the sugar rush.
Speaker C:And then crash me at the end and I'll be the beekeeper.
Speaker C:Have you guys watched it?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:I've heard about it, but no.
Speaker C:Okay, then I'll stay away from it.
Speaker B:The same director who did Suicide Squad, is it.
Speaker B:Okay, well, David Ayer.
Speaker C:Well, he was knocking it out of the park with the beekeeper.
Speaker B:Hell yeah.
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker C:It makes sense.
Speaker B:Good for him.
Speaker C:And you get to the end and.
Speaker B:You'Re like, all right, we love a success story.
Speaker A:Yes, success.
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Speaker C:Have you guys ever thought about just the place you like and just be like, I will just give it a bump till they maybe give us money?
Speaker A:Yeah, we do it.
Speaker B:Why do you think I'm wearing Bucky's shoes?
Speaker A:Your Bucky gets comments online all the time.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker A:People love it.
Speaker A:People love it when you wear buckies.
Speaker A:And then what is it?
Speaker A:Your buddy's company, your favorite.
Speaker A:Seth Rogen's company.
Speaker B:Seth Rogen?
Speaker B:Yeah, the house plant company.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's a lighter.
Speaker B:Is that green?
Speaker A:They get a ton of free.
Speaker C:I'm afraid to touch it.
Speaker B:Tap the top down.
Speaker C:Where's the flame come out?
Speaker B:No flame.
Speaker B:Tap the top down.
Speaker B:You'll see.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anyhow, what's the next.
Speaker B:What's the next category?
Speaker B:It's a car lighter.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:You're old enough.
Speaker B:You should know what this.
Speaker C:Yeah, I know what that is.
Speaker C:But whenever somebody just has a lighter in their home and they're like, touch it.
Speaker C:I'm like, where's the flame come at?
Speaker C:You're like, don't worry about it.
Speaker A:All right?
Speaker C:I've been tricked doing stuff before.
Speaker A:I miss the time in history when we smoked.
Speaker A:We Smoked so many cigarettes that we had to have a lighter and just.
Speaker C:Pull it straight up.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:Well, I'll be.
Speaker C:They also call these windproof lighters.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:What I loved about these back when I was your age, what I loved about those is that you would use one in your car.
Speaker C:Well, it's going to get hotter now.
Speaker C:You'd use one in your car and you'd stick the end of your cigarette to it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then you pull back and it just pulled all the tobacco out on fire, basically.
Speaker C:So it would fall all over your car.
Speaker C:It was very nice.
Speaker A:But you're like, hey, it's in my car.
Speaker A:I guess I'll take what I can get.
Speaker C:Talk about a dystopian past.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:4 to 0.
Speaker A:What's in front of a cinematography, production design, sound, costumes, editing.
Speaker B:This is where I think the movie truly shined.
Speaker B:And again, it's like we were talking about Hardcore Henry.
Speaker B:It has just enough of a story that it justifies the experience.
Speaker B:This is kind of the same thing.
Speaker B:Yeah, the, the, the.
Speaker B:The plot, fantastic.
Speaker B:The writing decent.
Speaker B:Good enough.
Speaker B:Passable.
Speaker B:Something I enjoy.
Speaker B:The visual feast of this movie was so much fun.
Speaker B:Adding the elements of the slow mo with.
Speaker B:With like the, the rainbow kind of elements in that to just the straight visceral darkness of being closed into this gigantic building.
Speaker B:And then weirdly, like when you go into any of the little apartments and you see like everyone has their own little identity within the apartment.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It was so well done.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it's definitely.
Speaker B:I am the law.
Speaker C:For me, unlike the first one, I'd never just went, what are the.
Speaker C:What is this?
Speaker C:Yeah, you know, where you're just like, you know, see people in futuristic clothes.
Speaker C:Yeah, like I said, like recycled food.
Speaker B:What is this?
Speaker C:Yeah, just stuff like that.
Speaker C:Because there's so many ways that I think that you can be subtle and bring in something big that like kind of hits you subconsciously.
Speaker C:Like, I'm not sure if they did it in this movie because I didn't catch it, but it wouldn't feel out of place to see posters and stuff in the background that say eat recycled food and just shit like that.
Speaker C:And you don't have to comment on it because.
Speaker C:Okay, so in.
Speaker C:I know I realize this movie is not realistic, but sometimes you have to have some sort of buy in on a movie.
Speaker C:Like you have to buy in like professional wrestling.
Speaker C:Like you have to believe the cave just a touch.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:For it to work.
Speaker C:And so whenever, like say all three of us were walking down the street on a normal day talking.
Speaker C:Do we talk about.
Speaker C:Man, it's crazy that we live in a dystopian future.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And eat recycled food.
Speaker C:Have you noticed that?
Speaker C:We eat recycled food?
Speaker C:And what is this?
Speaker C:Wow, that's a really large building.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:No, we live here.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So you don't find us.
Speaker C:If you're in New York with a New Yorker.
Speaker C:They're not just talking to you about the Statue of Liberty.
Speaker C:Yeah, like that.
Speaker C:And this movie does a great job of just going through this is the world.
Speaker C:This is how people look.
Speaker C:We're not explaining it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:We're just going, you know.
Speaker A:And you were just dropped in.
Speaker C:We were just dropped.
Speaker C:I mean, you basically totally were.
Speaker C:I mean, he does, you know, bring up, you know, how we're here.
Speaker C:There's a big Mega City.
Speaker C:There's like, I think three throughout the country.
Speaker C:And the rest didn't say.
Speaker B:All he said is, this is Mega City One or whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But there's.
Speaker B:And that's where I feel like if they were going to do sequels, they probably would have explored this idea of other cities.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then you would have to have just a different judge, basically.
Speaker C:Unless he's just like, well, I'm going to leave the curse.
Speaker C:I'm going to go hundreds of thousands of miles to curse it.
Speaker C:Earth.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But, yeah, I.
Speaker C:I'm definitely.
Speaker C:I'm definitely.
Speaker C:I am the law on this.
Speaker A:Love.
Speaker C:Because if not, I mean, if.
Speaker C:If none of that worked like it did in the first movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Then this would be a completely different experience.
Speaker C:No matter how good the acting was, how good the pacing was, if everybody was wearing like back to the future to clothes, you know what I mean?
Speaker C:Where everybody's like, well, we're wearing the same clothes, but they got plastic rings around them.
Speaker C:And you're like, why.
Speaker C:Why is that happening?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Why would anybody ever do that?
Speaker C:Like, like I said, for Judge Dread, like, you just the homeless people or whatever.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The dredges.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:With some fancy thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:They were just like shredded clothes, but, like big patches of plastic.
Speaker C:What's the point?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I go, I am the law here, too.
Speaker A:The only things that.
Speaker A:Again, I.
Speaker A:I love the slow mo thing, but I do think there were like two instances where it was like, okay, that's enough.
Speaker C:Was one the bathtub scene?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:That was overdone.
Speaker A:And then when they're throwing them over.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just agree.
Speaker A:I thought they were both great for the first 10 seconds.
Speaker A:And then I was like, okay, let's.
Speaker A:Let's do it.
Speaker C:First thing, it hit my head.
Speaker A:I'm not a tick tock minder.
Speaker A:My favorite movies.
Speaker A:I have so many movies.
Speaker B:No attention span, dude.
Speaker B:I have.
Speaker A:The movies on my favorite list are like three hours long.
Speaker A:What were you saying?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, the.
Speaker C:The scene in the bathtub.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:The only thing I could think of, I was like, they're stretching this out because there's something that had to be cut out.
Speaker C:Like, something had to be cut out.
Speaker C:So they're just like, we need to.
Speaker B:Hit an hour and a half, y'all.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:We already think that this is going to be the big next Sin City type of like thing.
Speaker C:Just like it go.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:But the one thrown off the building, I.
Speaker C:I liked.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I was like, yeah, that should be.
Speaker C:That's a.
Speaker C:That's a man's life we're talking.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just got fixated on the idea of like, well, when the mind expires or no long.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anyway, that we already.
Speaker B:But even then they kind of showed that when she hit the ground and like it.
Speaker B:Oh, that was a visceral.
Speaker A:The blood.
Speaker A:That was one of the coolest scenes.
Speaker B:That was dope.
Speaker B:That was one of the best like villain deaths I've ever seen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's right up there with the Joker in the very first bat.
Speaker C:Batman.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You get to hear the laughing and stuff as you see him and all that.
Speaker C:It was pretty neat.
Speaker A:Very good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But aside from that, I love the editing here.
Speaker C:My.
Speaker A:One of my biggest takeaways.
Speaker B:Transitions were insane.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The pace was great.
Speaker A:Like just.
Speaker A:It was just boom, boom, boom the whole time.
Speaker A:Aside from those two slow mos.
Speaker A:Like the rest of the movie is very much just like.
Speaker A:And it's exactly what they.
Speaker A:They were missing in the first one was like you just kept getting stuck in these slogs dialogue and.
Speaker A:And you're meeting these internal board members and the desert.
Speaker A:Like this movie knew what.
Speaker A:You said it perfectly.
Speaker A:It knew what it was and it just kept going.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You didn't have to explain the whole film.
Speaker C:Like in the first one.
Speaker A:And I was shocked when it was over.
Speaker A:I was like, it's over.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I quickly about the transitions because I forgot to mention this.
Speaker B:Like every time it would like.
Speaker B:Like the moment where the three bodies hit the ground and then the dots start appearing and then it slowly is pulling out and you realize, oh, now we're on a digital map.
Speaker B:Oh, now the maps expanded.
Speaker B:Like they had a few of those throughout the whole movie that were just so seamless.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So beautiful.
Speaker A:Really great.
Speaker B:Masterful job, sirs and ladies.
Speaker A:Good job.
Speaker A:Alex Garland.
Speaker C:You guys can keep your jobs.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Too bad.
Speaker A:You made like nine movies since this came out.
Speaker A:You didn't ask me about it.
Speaker A:How good are these bad guys, huh?
Speaker A:It's five to zero.
Speaker B:I, you know, this was fantastic.
Speaker B:I thought again, like I said, with just the supporting cast in general, everybody was memorable.
Speaker B:Whether I can remember their names or not.
Speaker B:The characters themselves are incredibly memorable.
Speaker B:I love, I love the fact that they had that moment where they had to decide if they were just going to kill the dude or let him go or keep taking them through.
Speaker B:Like taking him through the building with Barksdale.
Speaker B:Yeah, I, I like the, the other like big, almost Russian kind of henchmen that dread just throws off the balcony and then walks away.
Speaker B:Lena Heady is obviously incredible.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Even.
Speaker B:Even down to like the random husband guy who got killed.
Speaker B:Like every single one of them had something that, that you were going to remember if you needed to.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think, I think way better than the, than the original one.
Speaker B:Like this.
Speaker B:This just.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You kind of.
Speaker B:You root for them even while they're dying.
Speaker B:You're like, yeah, there goes.
Speaker B:There goes skinny guy.
Speaker C:Well, I mean, the movie wouldn't.
Speaker C:It's just like Batman.
Speaker C:It wouldn't be good without a good villain.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker C:So if you don't have a matchable villain or at least an overpowered villain.
Speaker C:Villain.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Then what's the point of having the hero's journey.
Speaker C:The Peter Joseph thing.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker C:So, yeah, I, I'm there with it too.
Speaker C:And like I said, I even like this movie.
Speaker C:I don't think I mentioned it on this podcast, but I've liked this movie less than the first time I saw it and still loved it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Where I was just like.
Speaker C:Because I think I was watching it this time.
Speaker C:Looking for the bad parts.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And of course you go looking for.
Speaker C:You go looking for trouble.
Speaker C:Find it.
Speaker C:Do you think?
Speaker C:Have you guys watched Punisher War Zone?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker C:Never mind.
Speaker C:You should.
Speaker C:It's this movie a lot.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker C:It's movie.
Speaker C:This movie a lot.
Speaker C:Except you can tell whenever production got their fingers into it or not production, but like producers.
Speaker A:Is that Thomas Jane?
Speaker C:No, it's.
Speaker C:Oh, God, he's dead.
Speaker C:Is it Ray Stevenson or something like that?
Speaker C:He died like semi recently in the past three, four, five years.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:But he plays older Punisher.
Speaker C:He's not young, good looking Punisher.
Speaker C:He is older, big, thick punisher.
Speaker C:And it hits the ground of the mafia is having a dinner and it sets it up a little bit.
Speaker C:Like, where you know who this guy is?
Speaker C:Another guy from the wire.
Speaker C:McNulty.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, from the Wire, whatever his name is.
Speaker C:So there's another person with a Irish accent trying to do an American Italian act.
Speaker C:It does not work that great.
Speaker C:But he's a good actor.
Speaker C:And then you just have the Punisher go in and with a road flare.
Speaker C:Light a road flare after he knocks the power out and just decimates a room.
Speaker A:I need to see that.
Speaker C:Dude.
Speaker C:It is amazing.
Speaker B:Hell, yeah.
Speaker C:But then you get in the middle.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Then you get the.
Speaker A:To the plot where they needed a story.
Speaker C:Just like, we got to keep this moving for people that don't know who the Punisher is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You really don't.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Move, man.
Speaker A:Keep shooting, people.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah, I.
Speaker A:I actually really, really dug this.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I'm all about villains, you know, from the Crow.
Speaker A:Like, the reason I love the Crow is because each villain was just so cool.
Speaker A:They had their own thing, the way they taught.
Speaker A:Like, they fired up baby behooves.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Hey, good quote.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker A:Sorry, it took me a minute.
Speaker C:You're talking to a man that still has a Crow T shirt at home.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker C:The original movie that is basically rotted holes.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker C:It's the only one of its kind that I can find.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I bought it at a skate shop in, like, amazing 94.
Speaker A:I'm obsessed.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:That's why the first series we did when we started Movie Wars Backup was the Crow.
Speaker A:But I just.
Speaker A:I just think it behooves any film that's like this.
Speaker A:Like, spend more time on the villain.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's obviously, to me, was my biggest gripe was the first was like, if I could have had a little more convincing of a villain, maybe I would have liked it better.
Speaker A:But they had to toss into cannibals.
Speaker A:It's like, well, our main villain's not bad enough, so we gotta, like, just randomly have cannibals.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:This, like, unique.
Speaker A:I like how she played it, and I like that she had this backstory and they didn't.
Speaker A:They didn't, like, drag us through the mud on it.
Speaker A:You just.
Speaker B:You just did enough that you needed to know.
Speaker A:A tough whore who plays it soft, but the things she says are incredibly vicious.
Speaker A:It was complex.
Speaker A:I dug it.
Speaker C:She started at the bottom.
Speaker C:Now she's on the side.
Speaker B:Literally.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker A:That's one tough whore.
Speaker A:I just love saying that.
Speaker A:Six to zero.
Speaker A:And this is.
Speaker A: This is going well for dread: Speaker A:Your move, punk.
Speaker A:How is the.
Speaker A:This interpretation of the cyberpunk aesthetic.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:Yeah, this is what I would want from any type of cyberpunk movie.
Speaker B:Like, it's just grungy enough that you can feel the dirt.
Speaker B:But I also.
Speaker B:I also could see the next movie dealing with some, like, elite class who lives at the top of some of these buildings.
Speaker B:Like, I could see it having some different pockets of the world that we weren't able to explore in this one.
Speaker B:So as kind of your.
Speaker B:Your lore category with some of the other movies, this made me want good lore.
Speaker B:Yeah, this made me want to go deeper into what this world could be.
Speaker B:So it's definitely an eye on the law for me.
Speaker A:Yeah, that would have been a good category for this too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Wait, what was the question again?
Speaker C:Just to make sure how cyberpunk was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Your move, punk.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Okay, so if I'm gonna compare it to other cyberpunk movies, and there's only two I can think of, and both of those are Blade Runner.
Speaker B:You can include like, cyberpunk the video game and like, that kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Aesthetic.
Speaker C:Robocopy is kind of cyberpunky.
Speaker C:See, I.
Speaker C:I guess while I was watching, I never got a cyberpunk Bob.
Speaker C:Interesting.
Speaker C:As odd as that feels, I really didn't.
Speaker C:I guess just because all the technology was kind of just own dread himself.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:But then you do have the Dom Hog Gleason guy that has the.
Speaker B:The robot eyes.
Speaker B:Like every now and then people would have.
Speaker B:And it was very subtle.
Speaker B:Like, it definitely was.
Speaker B:Was just about as subtle as, like, upgrade was.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's like only the one character has like the major upgrade, but you have a couple other characters.
Speaker C:Maybe that's the reason why I didn't think of it, because whenever I think of like the cyberpunk video game and cyberpunk just in general.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I think of almost everybody being like, just with our phone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, this is our side.
Speaker C:This is.
Speaker C: cyberpunk to like, you know,: Speaker A:This is like the early onset.
Speaker A:That's one thing upgrade does really well is like, it's like this is the early version of everyone being modified.
Speaker C:And this is.
Speaker C:And I guess in this movie as.
Speaker C:As akin to that would be like, this is the late middle version of it where people don't necessarily can afford it or even have it and only certain people have it.
Speaker C:Or maybe it's the early onset.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker B:Well, I almost got the vibe that it's like, as the early onset was about to explode into mid.
Speaker B:Is when the world went to hell and it was halted.
Speaker B:So there's still only a little bit, and certain people have access to them.
Speaker B:And, I mean, again, this is just me pulling out of my ass.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Kind of the vibe that I got from it.
Speaker A:And the warranty's expired.
Speaker C:It just doesn't feel like a cyberpunk movie to me.
Speaker C:And maybe I can watch it again in a year or so, and I'll be like, I get it now.
Speaker C:But I guess to me, it was always just a.
Speaker C:A murderous romp of a movie that just happened to have a gun you could talk to.
Speaker B:That's fair.
Speaker C:So I guess I'll have to be the contrarian on this.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker C:Be like, yeah, this is not a cyberpunk movie.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:Don't be judgy on it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, no, I totally get it.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I did go positive on this one.
Speaker A:I went.
Speaker A:I am the lot.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:One of my favorite thing was the buildings.
Speaker A:I just this.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker A:This idea of, like, we have a giant population that's been misplaced, and now they have to live in these giant.
Speaker A:I just love that whole thing.
Speaker A:And this is another thing.
Speaker A:The first one got really wrong, even though I tried not to compare them.
Speaker A:But, you know, they.
Speaker A:They exposed us to this world at the beginning of Judge Red and then never tapped into it, if you think about it.
Speaker A:Actually, it's even funnier to me now, now that we're talking about this.
Speaker A:And how funny was it that they gave us this world?
Speaker A:Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker A:But even at the halfway point, then they took us out to the desert.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:They skipped over this whole world.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's like, wait a second.
Speaker A:Like, you didn't.
Speaker A:You didn't pick a villain from this world.
Speaker A:You didn't let us live in this and breathe this world.
Speaker A:You took us out to the cursed land or whatever.
Speaker A:The Cursed Earth.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Here, like, we are living and breathing the negative aspects of this Mega City thing.
Speaker A:And to me, that was very cyberpunk and so.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I mean, it's true.
Speaker A:It's like a hybrid dystopian.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's a weird mix, but I.
Speaker A:I totally.
Speaker A:I am the law here.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I feel like you could almost drop this movie with different, obvious, different circumstances and different technologies in, like, in, like, so many different eras.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it would work in each one.
Speaker C:And I think that's the reason why I don't get the cyberpunk thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's like, if you try to do Blade Runner anywhere else but that era.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It ain't gonna work.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And especially the new one with the Ryan Gosling or whatever, which controversially, I like better than the original.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker B:I've heard many people have that opinion.
Speaker A:It's one of the highest rated sequels.
Speaker C:As it should be, of all time, because it moves better, it's less.
Speaker C:Have you guys watched Blade Runner?
Speaker B:I watched.
Speaker C:Okay, good.
Speaker B:Seen the first one.
Speaker B:I started watching the second one and just couldn't watch it at the time.
Speaker B:But I need to go back and finish.
Speaker A:I dig them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's.
Speaker C:It's crazy how good that was.
Speaker C:And I went into it kind of iffy because I wasn't a huge Blade Runner guy.
Speaker C:And thanks to Movie Pass once again, I just.
Speaker B:I'll just go watch this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then I sat down and, like, God, 17 hours later, it felt like I got up and went, that was awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Really good.
Speaker C:But I think of that more as sure as, like, a cyberpunk thing.
Speaker A:These are really.
Speaker A:These, like, the dystopian sci fi, cyberpunk thing.
Speaker A:They bleed together so much.
Speaker A:Yeah, they really do.
Speaker A:Dystopian is the reason I didn't want to focus dystopian here because that's such a giant.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Genre.
Speaker A:I mean, there's the arcade.
Speaker A:We did.
Speaker A:We got into this because we did Mad Max, and then we did.
Speaker A:What was the last one?
Speaker A:We did Brazil.
Speaker A:And, like, there's the technological, there's the authoritarian, but there's also the anarchical.
Speaker A:Like, dystopian is like this giant world.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, it's like saying.
Speaker B:Hunger Games is considered dystopian.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's like saying, like, what kind of music do you like?
Speaker C:Rock.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which thousands of sub genres are we talking about?
Speaker C:Are we talking Chuck Berry?
Speaker B:Or are we talking Metallica?
Speaker B:Or are we talking slip knot?
Speaker A:I mean, you could argue with this inflation.
Speaker A:Like, we have dystopia right now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So, yeah, true.
Speaker C:I mean, to certain.
Speaker C:Yeah, to certain people, we are living in a nightmarish hellscape.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:We are living in a corner.
Speaker B:$17 a dozen.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Well, at least you don't have to eat while you're listening to the Movie wars podcast, 7 to 0, the rare clean Sweep.
Speaker A:And I would never have seen it coming for dread.
Speaker A:I hadn't seen.
Speaker A:I had refused to watch Dread because I was so mad at Sylvester Stallone for making the first one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I just totally was like, I'm not gonna watch another one.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:It's so weird to.
Speaker A:To have.
Speaker A:Have this experience where I, like, I ignored it.
Speaker A:On purpose.
Speaker A:And then I was like, damn.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're welcome.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:And also this debunks the whole.
Speaker A:I pick a movie and you on it.
Speaker A:I love this.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, no, there's been a couple.
Speaker B:There's been a couple that you don't.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But there's been a couple that I do.
Speaker B:Your wife like Tin Tin.
Speaker B:So I'm right.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker A:And she.
Speaker A:Well, she's.
Speaker A:She on a regular basis, reminds me that I.
Speaker A:I enjoy really depressing.
Speaker B:She brings life into this world, so I go with her.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I also think you're.
Speaker A:You're similar, though, to her because, like, you.
Speaker A:You don't tend to like depressing as much as I do.
Speaker B:You are wrong with that, really?
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:See, I thought it was because I like depressing.
Speaker B:Have you seen.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:Have you seen Mel.
Speaker B:Melancholia?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That is one of my favorite movies.
Speaker A:Oh, I love.
Speaker B:Yeah, it is beautiful.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's Von Trier before Von Trier.
Speaker A:Von Triered.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know what else did Von Trier do?
Speaker A:Antichrist.
Speaker B:Don't watch Antichrist.
Speaker B:House that Jack Built.
Speaker B:Dogville.
Speaker A:Dancer in the dark.
Speaker C:I would keep falling asleep during Antichrist.
Speaker C:I bet.
Speaker C:I swear to God, I bet I've watched it three times.
Speaker A:How drunk are you?
Speaker A:Because extreme.
Speaker A:I didn't sleep.
Speaker A:I didn't sleep when I watched it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I could.
Speaker A:There was these visuals that I could not get out of my brain.
Speaker C:I turned out whenever they say they weren't going to show Willem Dafoe's dong.
Speaker C:Yeah, I know.
Speaker C:They got a stunt hawk in there.
Speaker C:And I was like, bring a book.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Motherfucker is apparently too much of a monster with that hog.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Too bad he doesn't have a face to match.
Speaker C:Unfortunately, there is pictures that show it on the Internet, because one day I just went, what's the big deal with this?
Speaker C:You were like, not necessarily the dick, but they were just like, he won't do nudes.
Speaker C:Or like, they can't do.
Speaker C:I was like, what the.
Speaker C:They just, like, one picture.
Speaker C:I was like, God damn.
Speaker C:I was like, that's insane.
Speaker A:What if it's because he actually has two of them?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Two days.
Speaker B:That was the only thing left from the twin that he ate Both dicks.
Speaker A:The first one ate, but the first.
Speaker C:One'S so big, he has to move it out of the way to see the regular.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:This is my reserve.
Speaker A:Well, this went a great direction.
Speaker A:Well, dude, it was so good to have you, man.
Speaker A:Thanks for having me.
Speaker C:Thank you for bringing me on for an A plus movie that sucked and a B minus movie to a lot of people that ruled.
Speaker A:Yeah, dude.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:Well, we love y'all.
Speaker A:Don't.
Speaker A:Don't let the dystopian world fall upon you.
Speaker A:I'm Kyle.
Speaker B:I'm Seth.
Speaker C:Jose.
Speaker A:Love, y'all.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Movie Wars.
